Hi Marsha, [Mary said] > > The fourth level is a formalized subject/object level (SOM), where > the > > paramount demand is for rational objective knowledge, which denies > the > > existence of Quality. >
[Marsha replied] > Quality being value? Quality being experience? Quality as Emptiness? > I > cannot agree with your "which denies the existence of Quality." Mr. > Pirsig, > himself, has used intellect to explain the Quality. My understanding > of Quality is as unpatterned experience/patterned experience; it is not > the > descriptions or discussions of it. But maybe if you would elaborate, I > might > have more to consider. As in, Quality does not exist, Quality is just a subjective opinion, Quality is not an inherent property of a thing, or Quality is not real. Also as in, Quality is trivial, fluff, not to be taken seriously, cannot be properly measured, quantified, objectively observed, or used in the metrics to rate you in your annual job performance review. In other words, Quality is *just* subjective. Given that, how does it compare with what you said? > ... > The fourth level is a formalized >> subject/object level (SOM), where the paramount demand is for >> rational, objective knowledge, which is free from the taint of any subjectivity. I think we are saying the same thing? Best, Mary Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
