Arlo said to John:

Our western approach has been historically based on a subject-object 
metaphysics, and our language reveals that. Within a MOQ, this worldview is 
reversed, so that Quality precedes subjects and objects, it is not something 
'objective' nor is it something 'subjective'. A MOQ says that Quality *is* 
experience, so a phrase like "quality experience" is not only unnecessarily 
redundant, but mistakenly adheres to the subject-object view that "quality" is 
an adjective that can be applied to certain 'things'.

dmb says:
I think that's exactly right and well said too. This sort of excellent 
performance seriously undermines John's complaints about the failure of others 
to plainly articulate the MOQ. And when has Dan ever been anything less than 
100% intelligible? I honestly cannot recall a single case. Andre is as plain 
and clear as any native speaker and he always dishes up the most relevant 
quotes too. 
Long story, short. I just don't buy that kind of criticism. There's no shortage 
of good explanations around here and your pithy rebuttal to John is fresh 
evidence of that. 


And grateful thanks for the free gift. I haven't received many in my past 
history but hopefully that'll change in my future days ahead.

                                          
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