dmb,

They make sense to me.    


Marsha 


On May 14, 2011, at 11:31 AM, david buchanan wrote:

> 
> 
> Marsha said to dmb:
> 
>> Here's my definition of Dynamic Quality and static quality.
>> 
>> For me, Dynamic Quality is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable.  
>> Static patterns of value are processes: impermanent, interdependent, 
>> ever-changing.  No subjects.  No objects.  Not things-in-themselves.  
>> Overlapping, interconnected, ever-changing processes that pragmatically 
>> tend to persist and change in a stable, predictable pattern.   
>> 
>> Don't you like my defintions?
> 
> 
> dmb says:
> The question is not whether or not I like your definitions. Do they make 
> sense? That's the question. 
> As I pointed out already, the problem is not that you have a different point 
> of view. The problem is that your definitions defy logic, dictionaries and 
> Pirsig's text. How could your definitions be any worse? I honestly can't 
> imagine how they could be any more confused. 
> What amazes me is that you shamelessly persist in saying really stupid things 
> like this. In the last sentence, for example, you describe static patterns as 
> stable AND ever-changing. That's like saying stable structures are fluid, 
> which is exactly what they are not. That's not my definition. That's just 
> what the words mean. That's what they meant before you and I were born. 
> That's how Pirsig and other english speakers use the term. But apparently 
> you're just not capable of understanding or meeting the most basic 
> requirements of communication. 
> There are only two terms here: static and dynamic. This is the first and most 
> basic distinction of the MOQ and even at this simple starting point you're 
> already way off. These terms are opposites and yet you can't even see the 
> difference between them. "For me, my definition of 'up' is not other than 
> 'down' and for me, 'dry' things are wet and watery. Of course, you wouldn't 
> understand that because I'm here as a man, speaking for all men.
> 
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