p.s. Look up the word 'quality' or 'value' in a dictionary and you will not
find a reference to 'static' or 'Dynamic'.
On May 14, 2011, at 12:59 PM, MarshaV wrote:
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> On May 14, 2011, at 12:32 PM, david buchanan wrote:
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>> dmb said to Marsha:
>> ...The problem is that your definitions defy logic, dictionaries and
>> Pirsig's text. How could your definitions be any worse? I honestly can't
>> imagine how they could be any more confused. ...In the last sentence, for
>> example, you describe static patterns as stable AND ever-changing. That's
>> like saying stable structures are fluid, which is exactly what they are not.
>> That's not my definition. That's just what the words mean. That's what they
>> meant before you and I were born. That's how Pirsig and other english
>> speakers use the term. But apparently you're just not capable of
>> understanding or meeting the most basic requirements of communication.
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>> Marsha replied to dmb:
>> They make sense to me.
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>> dmb says:
>> Again, the criticism is that your definitions defy logic, dictionaries and
>> Pirsig's text.
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> Marsha:
> Your opinion... I am trying to enlarge and improve my understanding of the
> MoQ.
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>> dmb:
>> You have never successfully responded to the substance of that complaint.
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> Marsha:
> It's opinion.
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>> dmb:
>> You only ever retreat into solipsism, mysticism, feminism or otherwise think
>> up some bullshit reason to avoid responsibility for your own thoughts and
>> actions.
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> Marsha:
> More ad hominemery.
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>> dmb:
>> And your standard of intelligibility is making sense to yourself? Wow.
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> Marsha:
> I sure wouldn't use you as a standard.
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>> You really don't see how idiotic that is?
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> Marsha:
> Attack, attack, attack.
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>> dmb:
>> Making up your own definitions of english words is like printing your own
>> money. You can do it but you'll soon discover how worthless it is when you
>> try to spend it anywhere.
>> Or try going into a store with a five-dollar bill and explain to the clerk
>> that you define "five" to mean "a hundred". See, money only works as a
>> medium of exchange when we co-operate as to its meaning and value and you
>> are hack counterfeiter. Your definitions are as valid as a wooden nickel and
>> only a fool would take your bogus coins.
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> Marsha:
> Hyperbole and finger-wagging, but no substance.
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>> dmb:
>> As anyone with a dictionary can see, "static" is a term contrasted with and
>> opposed to the term "dynamic" and vice versa. As anyone with a copy of Lila
>> can see, "static" and "dynamic" are similarly contrasted and opposed within
>> the MOQ. Your apparently inability to grasp such basic concepts is actually
>> pretty bizarre. Do you really not understand that language is a collective
>> property? Do you really not see how communication is utterly destroyed by
>> altering whatever meanings and definitions you like?
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> Marsha:
> Hyperbole and nonsense...
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>> dmb:
>> This pattern of behavior goes way beyond dumb. It's crazy.
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> Marsha:
> More ad hominemery. (Like the word? It's easy to write, and near impossible
> to pronounce.)
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>> static |ˈstatik|adjective1 lacking in movement, action, or change, esp. in a
>> way viewed as undesirable or uninteresting : demand has grown in what was a
>> fairly static market | the whole ballet appeared too static.• Computing (of
>> a process or variable) not able to be changed during a set period, for
>> example, while a program is running.2 Physics concerned with bodies at rest
>> or forces in equilibrium. Often contrasted with dynamic .
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>> dynamic |dīˈnamik|adjective1 (of a process or system) characterized by
>> constant change, activity, or progress : a dynamic economy.• (of a person)
>> positive in attitude and full of energy and new ideas : she's dynamic and
>> determined.• (of a thing) stimulating development or progress : the dynamic
>> forces of nature.• Physics of or relating to forces producing motion. Often
>> contrasted with static .• Linguistics (of a verb) expressing an action,
>> activity, event, or process. Contrasted with stative .
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> Marsha:
> Didn't you learn your lesson with demanding the standard seven-word
> dictionary definition for 'reify'? Then suddenly on February 19th, you
> finally acknowledge a broader meaning.
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> Like to remind you: the motorcycle that is to be worked on is YOURSELF.
> Do you have you work done?
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