Ian to Andre: Get over it Andre,
Marsha uses "ever changing" to remind us that the fundamental basis of even the static is in fact the dynamic.(You may find this annoying, I do too sometimes when she overdoes it, often in reaction to those too arrogant to see how static their own patterns are, but it's not the same as saying the static and dynamic are the same - Jeez) Andre: Yeah, well...swell Ian. Problem is that Marsha DOES conflate DQ/sq. She has said so repeatedly. And I think you are being a bit unfair when you suggest that those who do try to point out the error of this position (and all the wriggling, evasion, distortion and abuse associated with it) are 'too arrogant' to notice their own static patterns. The DQ/sq division expresses 'the fundamental division of the world...This first division of the Metaphysics of Quality now covered the spectrum of experience from primitive mysticism to quantum mechanics'. Marsha appears to be reducing the reality, the importance of sq constantly to this fundamental DQ basis thereby (intentionally or not) nullifying any and every discussion carried out on this discuss within which she involves herself. She seems to be implying that all sq is an illusion anyway so what the heck are we talking about? What are we worried about? And her latest little homer? MU! 'What remained for Phaedrus to do next was to fill in the gaps as carefully and methodically as he could...Life cannot exist on Dynamic Quality alone. It has no staying power. To cling to Dynamic Quality alone apart from any static patterns is to cling to chaos...static patterns...provide a necessary stabilizing force to protect Dynamic progress from degeneration...these patterns of static quality, the quality of order, preserve our world.(LILA, p 124) Ian: (The bag of weasels however seems to think the point of the exercise is to keep coming back with attacks and counter-attacks against the next weasel.) Andre: Whatever Ian. I think the MOQ is a wonderful idea. I do not want it to degenerate in the hearts, hands and minds of the likes of Marsha. If my (and other's) caring for Pirsig's MOQ and defending it in this fashion is regarded as 'arrogant' well so be it. Ian: PS What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding. Andre: I missed this at the end of your post. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
