On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:58 AM, david buchanan wrote:

> 
> Marsha asked four questions:  
> 
> Have you dropped the words 'free-will' and 'determinism'?  If you think 
> within the MoQ that free-will and determinism have new definitions, please 
> offer them...  If you are using new words please define them clearly? Please 
> clearly explain the reformulation as you understand them? 
> 
> dmb says:
> No, I haven't dropped the terms. The MOQ framework but does not alter their 
> basic definition. ("free will. noun. the power of acting without the 
> constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own 
> discretion.") ("determine |diˈtərmin|verb [ trans. ]1 cause (something) to 
> occur in a particular way; be the decisive factor in") These terms are not 
> new and there are many ordinary words that can serve as alternatives, such as 
> freedom and constraint. The MOQ puts these terms in a new metaphysical 
> context wherein the laws of causality are replaced by patterns of preference 
> and the choice between freedom and constraint are no longer mutually 
> exclusive positions.  
> 
> 
> Marsha said:
> If you are not using 'free-will' and 'determinism' as defined in the 
> dictionary, than you must agree that I was correct to neither accept 
> 'free-will' and 'determinism', nor reject 'free-will' and 'determinism'.  
> They are irrelevant within the MoQ.  Of course, you are about to explain the 
> new words to use and new understanding.
> 
> 
> dmb says:
> Irrelevant? I can only wonder what reasoning process brought you to that 
> conclusion. Nothing could be more relevant than freedom and constraint. These 
> two elements are built into the MOQ's basic subdivision. DQ and sq are the 
> Quality of freedom and the quality of order. It seems quite meaningless to 
> neither accept nor reject both sides. That's not an idea or a position. It's 
> just a refusal to have one. 


Marsha:
It seems to you, dmb, quite meaningless to neither accept nor reject both 
sides.  

 
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