Hi Ham and all, IMHO you have identified a metaphysics (beyond physics) with an ESSENCE beyond EXISTENCE. If I describe EXISTENCE as logical reality in an evolutionary framework, ESSENCE would stand apart from evolutionary logic.
Since I have no way of knowing the limits for ESSENCE, I accept its existence on Faith. Faith is the substance of things to be hoped for, and the evidence for things that appear not. Faith is powerful, and I acknowledge its contributions to culture. On a list dedicated to MOQ I am reluctant to go beyond Evolution, levels in existence, to Faith, Essence, before the MOQ DQ/SQ is more fully explored logically. It is rather new, and DQ is indefinable. For myself the reality of DQ is verifiable in indefinable emotions like LOVE. To propose a metaphysical order underlying moral behavior, I appeal to EXISTENCE. What, indefinable? Define Emotions! S/O, SOM. DQ/SQ, MOQ. On 8/20/11 10:16 AM, "Ham Priday" <[email protected]> wrote: >snip> > Pirsig went no farther than assigning Quality (Value) to > existential reality. He didn't want to be viewed as fostering religion or > "supernaturalism" by positing a Creator or Primary Source. That's a shame, > because his Quality is only as "real" as we can experience it in existence, > whereas the essence of metaphysics is what is beyond existence. > > We may be incapable of defining the Source, but it would be foolish to > conclude that > an evolutionary universe produces valuistic perceptions and emotions What > does existence EVOLVE FROM? > > Anyway, that's what I see as the challenge of philosophy. <snip> Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
