Hey Joe,
Yes, I am using "prove" as it pertains to logical construction.  The point was, 
as I think you said, that ultimately such logic is based on Trust (if we read 
it in a book beit the bible or a school science text or whether we hear it from 
a preacher or some Nobel laureate.)

I suppose it becomes faith if we don't need anyone to tell us such things (like 
quality).  The sense of quality comes from the emotional (as you use it).  From 
Quality comes reason.  For example, you know you like something, then you have 
to put together a bunch of words to justify that liking otherwise it will seem 
that you are not basing your "like" on your intellect.  In today's world liking 
something without then adding words seems trivial.

Metaphysics does not answer questions, it creates them, just like science. In 
my view.  
Mark

On Nov 7, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> The question of logic comes to the fore.  DQ/SQ is a metaphysical
> description for reality.  Why?  I do not know if you are using "prove" in
> the sense of a dialectic.  Is logic defined in emotion?  It has something to
> do with communication.  If words are a symbol that stand for something, how
> do millions of individuals use the "stand for something" with the same
> metaphysical meaning of the word?  Trust!
> 
> Metaphysics answers questions well or poorly.  What is the determining
> criteria?  Dialogue!  What is logical discourse in a discussion of a new
> metaphysics?  I say so! I may be wrong!  I may be illogical.
> 
> I guess logic is appealing to a critique in my trustworthiness in the past.
> Evolution and the use of words have a logical connection.  Or is logic: I am
> so smart and I say so because I feel it even if I have no words for my
> feelings.  All words carry baggage like faith!  Even logic!  Don't sweat the
> small stuff!
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> On 11/6/11 7:48 PM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Forget I said faith since that word carries all sorts of baggage.  Instead I
>> will say that logic is based on assumptions that we cannot prove.  Yes,
>> assumptions not faith.  Many assumptions we never question, I don't know why.
>> I guess they just seem right and so we create logic and intellect based on
>> that emotion.
> 
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