Hi Mark, I do not accept that the logic of SOM allows me to discuss reality. There is no security in a reality described as existing in a real object if it is seen as intentional existence as ideas in a mind as described in SOM.
The SOM logic needed to verify the reality of SO proposes the need for intentional existence in a mind. SOM is impossible to conceptualize. It is matter of a faith in a real objective existence for substance and an intentional existence for ideas in a mind. DQ/SQ on the other hand accepts evolution. I conceptualize evolution as levels in existence. Indefinable/definable reality, becomes the logic base of DQ/SQ describing reality in evolutionary levels. I describe evolution as levels in existence. In SOM individuality is an abstraction. The conception of Free will is confusing. In MOQ individuality follows evolution. Walk carefully through levels in existence, evolution, in describing freewill! I see individuality in the DQ/SQ format of levels in existence, MOQ. You declare that: Metaphysics of any kind must be discussed in SOM terms. I would rather discuss reality in existential terms of evolution like MOQ, levels in evolution, rather than restrictive SO terms of knowledge. Individuality as described in SOM, an intentional, objective/subjective existence in an intellect, denies the logic to evolution, the existence of levels in reality. Instincts modify reality in a car accident. Joe On 11/10/11 11:17 PM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote: > I think that Pirsig achieved metaphysical status since he was > discussing the nature of being. Metaphysics of any kind must be > discussed in SOM terms. However, such discussion can point away from > SOM, if the reader does not take the words literally, but as > conveyances. I would not say Pirsig "accepts" evolution in four > levels. I would say that he provided an analogy of evolution in four > levels to help him convey his idea of Quality. These levels are as a > constellation in the sky is. It is a way of putting meaning together > so that others can see. There is no more Truth in these levels than > there is in a constellation, but both can be said to exist. The power > of rhetoric is to show others how to look at the stars so they can see > the constellations that you see. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
