Hi Marsha, It's late and I am lost!
Joe On 12/21/11 12:06 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > With tiny correction... > > > Hi Joe, > > There is no "something" that inherently exists. I never said of anything that > it _did not exist_. Things or patterns conventionally exist. They do not > exist from their own side. Static patterns of value are processes, > conditionally co-dependent, impermanent, ever-changing and conceptualized, > that pragmatically tend to persist and change within a stable, predictable > pattern. Within the MoQ, these patterns are categorized into a four-level, > evolutionary, hierarchical structure: inorganic, biological, social and > intellectual. This static value exists in stable patterns relative to other > patterns. Patterns depend upon innumerable causes and conditions (patterns), > depend upon parts and the collection of parts (patterns), depend upon > conceptual designation (patterns). Patterns have no independent, inherent > existence. Further, these patterns represent "what works" depending upon on > an individual's static pattern of life history. > > > Marsha > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 20, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Marsha and All, >> >> If something is indefinable is it non-existent? The word "inherent" clouds >> the formation of logic in existence. It tries to introduce the hierarchy, >> "evolution", before describing the metaphysics for the logic of evolution. >> >> Evolution seems to be used by Pirsig as a logical order in existence for the >> conception of reality. Once evolution is conceptualized as DQ/SQ, >> indefinable reality is perceived outside the logical definition of >> mathematics since DQ is indefinable. 0 is defined as being non divisible. >> >> I accept that Metaphysics not Physics embraces the evolutionary hierarchy >> that can be discussed as levels in existence. Metaphysics achieves this >> prior to the conception that mathematical logic defines all. Hence the word >> metaphysics! DQ/SQ is the logic for existential reality like an evolution >> in existence, accessible to all, MOQ. >> >> Joe >> >> >> On 12/19/11 11:47 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> That is Ultimate Reality, Dynamic Quality, is empty of inherent existence. >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
