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Hi Joe, There is no "something" that inherently exists. I never said of anything that it _did not exist_. Things or patterns conventionally exist. They do not exist from their own side. Static patterns of value are processes, conditionally co-dependent, impermanent, ever-changing and conceptualized, that pragmatically tend to persist and change within a stable, predictable pattern. Within the MoQ, these patterns are categorized into a four-level, evolutionary, hierarchical structure: inorganic, biological, social and intellectual. This static value exists in stable patterns relative to other patterns. Patterns depend upon innumerable causes and conditions (patterns), depend upon parts and the collection of parts (patterns), depend upon conceptual designation (patterns). Patterns have no independent, inherent existence. Further, these patterns represent "what works" depending upon on an individual's static pattern of life history. Marsha Sent from my iPad On Dec 20, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Marsha and All, > > If something is indefinable is it non-existent? The word "inherent" clouds > the formation of logic in existence. It tries to introduce the hierarchy, > "evolution", before describing the metaphysics for the logic of evolution. > > Evolution seems to be used by Pirsig as a logical order in existence for the > conception of reality. Once evolution is conceptualized as DQ/SQ, > indefinable reality is perceived outside the logical definition of > mathematics since DQ is indefinable. 0 is defined as being non divisible. > > I accept that Metaphysics not Physics embraces the evolutionary hierarchy > that can be discussed as levels in existence. Metaphysics achieves this > prior to the conception that mathematical logic defines all. Hence the word > metaphysics! DQ/SQ is the logic for existential reality like an evolution > in existence, accessible to all, MOQ. > > Joe > > > On 12/19/11 11:47 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That is Ultimate Reality, Dynamic Quality, is empty of inherent existence. > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
