Hi Tuukka, So much for proof. Logic is empty. Whatever I say is the reality. So much for evolution!
Joe On 12/21/11 2:53 PM, "Tuukka Virtaperko" <[email protected]> wrote: > Marsha, Joseph, all, > > Logically, if something is non-existent, it is predicate p(x) whose > extension is empty. Intuitively: it does not refer to anything. The > reference itself exists, but the thing it refers to does not. > > DQ is undefinable, but undefinability is definable. > > It cannot be proven or disproven that all undefinable things are DQ, > because that would require "undefinable thing" and "DQ" to be definable. > > Undefinable things cannot be proven to exist or proven not to exist. > > -Tuukka > > > > 20.12.2011 23:35, Joseph Maurer kirjoitti: >> Hi Marsha and All, >> >> If something is indefinable is it non-existent? The word "inherent" clouds >> the formation of logic in existence. It tries to introduce the hierarchy, >> "evolution", before describing the metaphysics for the logic of evolution. >> >> Evolution seems to be used by Pirsig as a logical order in existence for the >> conception of reality. Once evolution is conceptualized as DQ/SQ, >> indefinable reality is perceived outside the logical definition of >> mathematics since DQ is indefinable. 0 is defined as being non divisible. >> >> I accept that Metaphysics not Physics embraces the evolutionary hierarchy >> that can be discussed as levels in existence. Metaphysics achieves this >> prior to the conception that mathematical logic defines all. Hence the word >> metaphysics! DQ/SQ is the logic for existential reality like an evolution >> in existence, accessible to all, MOQ. >> >> Joe >> >> >> On 12/19/11 11:47 PM, "MarshaV"<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> That is Ultimate Reality, Dynamic Quality, is empty of inherent existence. >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
