[Craig] > Inorganic patterns (iron filings) recognize other inorganic > patterns (magnets); biological patterns (predators) recognize the patterns of > their prey.
[David] > How do you know that? A hawk circles overhead, then swoops down on a mouse. How does it distinguish the mouse from everything else around? By patterns. You reject a lot of good science by holding a bad metaphysics. [David] > It is only, our unique human minds which can recognise > these patterns. This is in line with Pirsig's quote that it is ideas which > create > what we know as inorganic patterns. "The MOQ says that Quality comes first, which produces ideas, which produce what we know as matter." - Lila's Child. Yes, our knowledge depends on concepts--intellectual patterns. But a hawk & a mouse are biological patterns. Intellectual patterns come from social patterns, which come from biological patterns, usw. [Dan] > Predators do not recognize patterns of prey... they exhibit preferences. How does the hawk prefer a mouse to a piece of wood? By recognizing the mouse pattern. You reject a lot of good science by holding a bad metaphysics. [Marsha] > I think it best to consider static patterns of value from two different > points-of-view. > The first would be the nature of all patterns: conditionally co-dependent, > impermanent, > ever-changing and conceptualized. The process of conceptualization would > pertain to all patterns > (ideas/language). > The second point-of-view would be categorization by evolutionary function > into their four-level, > hierarchical structure: inorganic, biological, social and intellectual. Marsha, Yes, thank you, this is on the right track. Craig Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
