Ron,
Isn't "passion" a loaded concept? I have never liked the use of the word. And RMP does make the Intellectual Level the highest form of static quality. That's hardly a rejection of reason. But while rejecting "passion," I agree that all static quality is a construct from the "affective domain of man’s consciousness". Marsha On Oct 12, 2012, at 7:27 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > "Knowing, by its very nature, concerns what is inherently best, and knowing > in its truest sense concerns what is best in its truest sense." > -Metaphysics Lambda[169c] [2] > > The love of wisdom is a passion for what is best. > > I dont think the passions were rejected so much as directed. Remember the > metaphor of > the chariot driver allowing the passions to drive and reason to guide. > > The passions were rejected when the forms became the ideal and the True > when the material was illusion and false. > Again the Platonic shadow is cast over the discussion, and it's Plato who > would divorce us > from the passions not Aristotle or Socrates. James seems to be under the > impression that > ideas are some how unrelated to the good, but in fact ideas exist by virtue > of their goodness > and Pirsig seems to over generalize the importance the ancient Greeks placed > on avoiding > the kinds prejudices the passions those ego-centric drives are associated > with. The only > comparison is that they both miss the mark in regard to the pragmatic > benefits of reason > over the unbridled passions and that the best passion is the passion for what > is best in life > which is what Socrates and Aristotle advocated and Plato rejected. > > .. > > > ________________________________ > From: david buchanan <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:59 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] The Art of Philosophy > > > Compare and discuss.... > > "If we were radically feelingless, and if ideas were only the things our > minds could entertain, we should lose all our likes and dislikes at a stroke, > and be unable to point to any one situation or experience in life more > valuable or significant than any other." -- William James, On a Certain > Blindness in Human Beings. > > > “It’s been necessary since before the time of Socrates to reject the > passions, the emotions, in order to free the rational mind for an > understanding of nature’s order which was as yet unknown. Now it’s time to > further an understanding of nature’s order by reassimilating those passions > which were originally fled from. The passions, the emotions, the affective > domain of man’s consciousness, are a part of nature’s order too. The central > part.” — Robert Pirsig, Zen and the Art > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
