Pirsig wrote:
“It’s been necessary since before the time of Socrates to reject the passions,
the emotions, in order to free the rational mind for an understanding of
nature’s order which was as yet unknown. Now it’s time to further an
understanding of nature’s order by reassimilating those passions which were
originally fled from. The passions, the emotions, the affective domain of man’s
consciousness, are a part of nature’s order too. The central part.” — Robert
Pirsig, Zen and the Art
Marsha said (to Ron):
Isn't "passion" a loaded concept? I have never liked the use of the word.
...But while rejecting "passion," I agree that all static quality is a
construct from the "affective domain of man’s consciousness".
dmb says:
Apparently, you don't understand what Pirsig is saying. Your comment rejects
and accepts the same idea at the same time. Your comment is contradictory
nonsense. Since "the passions" and "the emotions" are just names for the
"affective domain", it makes no sense at all to reject the former and accept
the latter.
As is often the case, your assertion can be defeated by simply quoting from the
dictionary.
affect 3 |ˈafekt; əˈfekt|noun Psychologyemotion or desire, esp. as influencing
behavior or action. See note at emotion .
"Affect is a formal psychological term that refers to an observed emotional
state."
THE RIGHT WORDA feeling can be almost any subjective reaction or state—pleasant
or unpleasant, strong or mild, positive or negative—that is characterized by an
emotional response (: a feeling of insecurity;: a feeling of pleasure).An
emotion is a very intense feeling, which often involves a physical as well as a
mental response and implies outward expression or agitation (: to be overcome
with emotion).Passion suggests a powerful or overwhelming emotion, with
connotations of sexual love (: their passion remained undiminished after 30
years of marriage) or intense anger (: a passion for revenge).
Your assertion can also be defeated by quoting from an ordinary encyclopedia.
Affect (psychology)"Affective" redirects here. For other uses, see Affect
(disambiguation).Affect refers to the experience of feeling or emotion.[1]
Affect is a key part of the process of an organism's interaction with stimuli.
The word also refers sometimes to affect display, which is "a facial, vocal, or
gestural behavior that serves as an indicator of affect" (APA 2006).
The affective domain represents one of the three divisions described in modern
psychology: the cognitive, the conative, and the affective. Classically, these
divisions have also been referred to as the "ABC of psychology", in that case
using the terms "affect", "behavior", and "cognition". In certain views, the
conative may be considered as a part of the affective,[2] or the affective as a
part of the cognitive.[3]
Here's another word you might want to learn, Marsha. Troll (Internet). In
Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or
off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog,
with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of
otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
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