John said:

Sincere thanks to Paco and David for cordial, thoughtful, and supportive 
replies to my recent post, which was, I confess, somewhat deliberately 
"baited".  David, your reply affirms the basic goodness and openness that Dr. 
Pirsig always manifested.  You truly participate in the spirit of his 
affirmation of the Good. ... Thank you both, and thank you all, for showing 
that mutually affirming dialogue is possible among people of good will in this 
often contentious and sometimes petty forum.


dmb says:
Supportive replies and affirming dialogue? Quite the opposite. I posted the 
quotes from Lila in order to show the MOQ's opposition to your claim. 

" ...rituals are seen as merely a static portrayal of Dynamic Quality, a 
sign-post which allows socially pattern-dominated people to see Dynamic 
Quality." As I read it, Pirsig is saying that ritualistic religion is static 
social quality. To the extent that these static patterns are mistaken for what 
they merely represent, such rituals "destroy the Dynamic Quality they were 
originally intended to preserve." (Lila, p.385) 
"Phaedrus thought sectarian religion was a static social fallout from Dynamic 
Quality," he says, and "it would certainly be a mistake to think that the MOQ 
endorses the static beliefs of any particular religious sect".  (Lila, p.376)
"In all religions bishops tend to gild Dynamic Quality with all sorts of static 
interpretations because their cultures require it. But these interpretations 
become like golden vines that cling to a tree, shut out its sunlight and 
eventually strangle it." (Lila, p.377)

Pirsig repeatedly issues the same sort of warning with respect to intellectual 
static patterns. Metaphysics is a 30,000 page menu but we ought not try to eat 
the menu. We don't mistake static intellectual portraits of DQ for DQ itself 
either. Static patterns of either kind can help evoke an experience of the 
"transcendent", if you're lucky, but the opposite effect is far more likely. A 
"transcendent" experience is more likely to shatter those fossilized, brittle 
and rigid truths of the past than affirm them.                                  
       
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