Hello everyone On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:46 PM, David Morey <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi MOQers > > So we experience SQ and DQ.
Dan: No we do not, not in the MOQ. I've been over this a thousand times with David Harding and have no desire to continue here. > > Do we experience objects? > I'd say yes in the form of various SQ patterns at different levels. > But do we not also experience a dynamic aspect to objects in > as far as they are partaking in a process? Where objects are > realising their dynamic possibilities? Is it not possibility > that we experience and that underlies what is dynamic > experience? > > Do we experience subjects and subjective feelings? > I'd day yes, these may not be objects but they can > be patterned and hence SQ. and they can be experienced > as very open, full of possibility, whether realised or negated > possibility and hence experienced as dynamic. > > The sea of possibility is vast compared the finite reality of > DQ and SQ that is realised. The sea of possibility that surrounds > the DQ and SQ that is realised in the actual, is what we mean > when we refer to the undefinable mystic quality of DQ. > > Although you might also wonder about how mathematics explores > a great deal of definable SQ that is possible but never realised as > actual, at least not materially actual, only actual as ideas and > imagination. > > MOQ forms a better conceptual grid for understanding experience > than SOM. No more no less. But qualities are experienced that are > both actual and possible, experience reaches beyond the actual into > the possible. This is the really radical version of an empiricism of > experience. > > Agree/disagree? Dan: I think you are using the term 'experience' in a number of ways that do not do justice to the MOQ. If we remember that experience and Dynamic Quality become synonymous within the MOQ, then it is easy to see we do not experience static qualtiy. Static quality is a memory of experience. Static quality emerges from experience. We do not experience static quality, however. That only leads to giganitic misunderstandings which many contrtibutors here are currently suffering from. Thank you, Dan http://www.danglover.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
