Thnx Adrie This is a comment I can deal with, learn from and helps me to bring my view in a new pespective.
I come back to you for an answer but for now I am busy to play music all weekend. Seven english musik friends have come over for a weekend of playing in Amsterdam. You're right about that it was wrong to try to piss mister David Buchanan off although i can never know for sure if he experienced the quality of being pissed of ;-) . As you see on the timestamp of the email, I had just came home from a wonderfull night playing musik with to many Beers. So I deeply appoligize to Mister David Buchanan. To be so in love with with a gem like moq he must be a good man deep inside. I never checked if he dropped math at highschool for a fact so it was very nasty of me to suggest such a thing. I haven't read the part of ZMM of Pirsig going to chicago for years butt from direct memory it felt appropriate at that moment. Probably i am dead wrong. Since he seems to be having a big problem with people with my psychiatric hystory I wil ask him to tolerate me as a sort of court jester who is used to walk across the boundries of the mythos of MOQ here. so...........Have to be off now, One more music session to go. Greetings, Eddo Rats 2013/4/6 ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected]> > Eddo, read learrn and chill-out a bit. > > Mu state . Zen and the art.......someone quoting Roberts observations on > wiki. > > *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)*< > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)> > > Good but no good article. > > Under “unasking the question” there is a snippet from Zen where Robert > makes a numer of big mistakes.The entire thinkingline of Robert about > circuits and on/off caracteristics is wrong. > > Computercircuits are never in a Mu-state.Only on first sight they seem to > be awaiting for zero power or power on as in on/off.What Robert is > depicting is a normal light circuit,a bulb, power on or of light on or off > , zero or not zero. > > Integrated computer circuits have three different states, and zero or non > zero is not one of them. > > High impendance (!) > > Under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_impedance > > You will be able to find digital electronics and analogue electronics. > > Now it is very easy to find where Robert goes wrong ,In digital electronics > and computer circuits there are three different states, and they are not > Mu. > > Robert tought that analogue electronics have the same properties of the > digital ones > > Not being an electronic engineer,Robert will always miss the word he was > looking for > > to make his entire point of view correct....”resonance rise” this was the > term he missed. > > and to understand this > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance_(alternating-current_circuits) > > Now my point for you Eddo > > You are taking the term “resonance rise” out of the technical connotation > and understand it as “Opslingering”but this connotation makes me realise > where you want to point out with your wave equations, you are trying to > avoid your own mu states, > > but fail to find the words, like Pirsig.Pirsig avoided his own Mu states! > > The trick is in the imaginary slow-motion of indiana jones his whip, the > resonance rise in de wave is reflecting back to the hand that is on the end > of the whip,but the reflection moves up in amplitude depending on the > lenght of the whip and the induced amplitude in the first place. > > This kind of reasearch is what you should be performing Eddo,instead of > pissing of Mr Buchanan. > > en Blijf weg van “opslingering”!--resonance rise, en de stilte van de Mu. > > Study these things before you will become Mu only, there is enough to > grasp. > > > > Groet , Adrie > > > > > > 2013/4/6 Eddo Rats <[email protected]> > > > @dumb > > Typical you to pick this part being my soft spot as someone with a > > psychiatric hystory being honest about it. You are not a philosopher but > a > > moq philosophologist a politician and a narcistic priest that wants me > out > > of his church. Good luck with your church. You win! :D probably dropped > > mathematics at highschool. This is that above the door > > Plato<http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Mathematicians/Plato.html> > > inscribed > > "Let no one who is not a geometer enter" > > > > My advice to you, read ZMM where pirsig goes to chicago again and again > and > > again and again. Look in the mirror and think very hard. To me you're a > > lost case but never give up hope . > > > > > > 2013/4/5 david buchanan <[email protected]> > > > > > Eddo answered the million dollar question: What's the point? > > > > > > > > > ...Understanding this relationship became even more important during > > > psychotic episodes when i noticed that the amounts of sensation i had > to > > > deal with became so high that it had a distorting effect on the > > personality > > > i was (as a collection of concepts in my subconscious mind). This made > me > > > even work harder to be able to understand this relationship. Now > after > > > twenty years i thought of a way to understand this, and this gives me > > tools > > > in my head to regulate myself when the sensations tend to become to > high. > > > So "the point" to me has very personal value... > > > P.S. Lets continue this discussion in the new thread i made "Quality > > > defined!" because we are hijacking this thread which was started with > > > another purpose by somebody else. > > > > > > > > > > > > dmb says: > > > > > > > > > Sorry, but I'm not interested. Since Pirsig says (about a thousand > times) > > > that Quality can't be defined and since your interested in mostly > > yourself, > > > I don't think you're even talking about the MOQ. 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