@Adrie Correction again1: I thought my phase shifted formula represented the mu state according to Pirsig but I am Not sure now
e^i(wt+pi/3) + e^-i(wt+pi/3) = coswt (when cos wt = cos -wt) . This is the stable state, like a 3 phase motor or generator When you add energy(increasing rotation speed, exitement, increase heartrate) you come at a potential resonance rise point at phase +pi/2 or +90° This is Technally the same potential resonance rice point as at phase 0pi or 2pi where you potentially come by energy and rotation speed reduction. than this point must represent wu and at 90 degrees must be wei. than sixty degrees must be the middle stable way. I am just speculating here, other poeple can have other opinions. Greetings Eddo Rats =4th post so enough for today. :D 2013/4/8 Eddo Rats <[email protected]> > correction again; mu state: e^i(wt+pi/3) + e^-i(wt+pi/3) = coswt (when > cos wt = cos -wt) > > Just woke up this can't be right, the math in my head is graphical, that's > why these errors. I am an Engineer, not a Mathematiciam :D > > > 2013/4/7 Eddo Rats <[email protected]> > >> correction; basic resonance mu state: e^(iwt+pi/3) + e^-(iwt+pi/3) = >> coswt (when cos wt = cos -wt) >> >> >> 2013/4/8 Eddo Rats <[email protected]> >> >>> Hi Adrie >>> Net terug van muziek sessie. Maak je geen zorgen over mijn >>> opslingeringen. >>> >>> You're worries about my state of resonance rise gives me the idea that >>> you seem to understand the direction i want to go to. I am taking some >>> more time to write a propper answer to your mail. >>> >>> But for the time being i can tell you my findings of the mu state in the >>> wave equation. >>> >>> The resonance rise situation is dangerous because you are than >>> suceptable to energy absorbtion. I don't yet know what kind of Energy but >>> it causes your sensation levels to rise above sustainable levels. >>> >>> Famous mechanical example of resonance rise too! high: tecoma bridge >>> resonance rise! <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw> >>> >>> Like this bridge can distort and break a subconscious mind can >>> distort(psychosis) and break(schizofrenia, dissosiation disorders) >>> >>> >>> I believe i found the mu state in resonanance theory but have never been >>> able to communicate it with anyone. >>> >>> basic resonance rise equation: e^iwt + e^-iwt = 2coswt >>> >>> basic resonance mu state: e^(iwt+pi/3) + e^(-iwt+pi/3) = coswt (when >>> cos wt = cos -wt) >>> >>> >>> Have fun! >>> >>> met vriendelijke groeten Eddo Rats >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> 2013/4/6 ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Eddo, read learrn and chill-out a bit. >>>> >>>> Mu state . Zen and the art.......someone quoting Roberts observations on >>>> wiki. >>>> >>>> *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)*< >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)> >>>> >>>> Good but no good article. >>>> >>>> Under “unasking the question” there is a snippet from Zen where Robert >>>> makes a numer of big mistakes.The entire thinkingline of Robert about >>>> circuits and on/off caracteristics is wrong. >>>> >>>> Computercircuits are never in a Mu-state.Only on first sight they seem >>>> to >>>> be awaiting for zero power or power on as in on/off.What Robert is >>>> depicting is a normal light circuit,a bulb, power on or of light on or >>>> off >>>> , zero or not zero. >>>> >>>> Integrated computer circuits have three different states, and zero or >>>> non >>>> zero is not one of them. >>>> >>>> High impendance (!) >>>> >>>> Under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_impedance >>>> >>>> You will be able to find digital electronics and analogue electronics. >>>> >>>> Now it is very easy to find where Robert goes wrong ,In digital >>>> electronics >>>> and computer circuits there are three different states, and they are >>>> not Mu. >>>> >>>> Robert tought that analogue electronics have the same properties of the >>>> digital ones >>>> >>>> Not being an electronic engineer,Robert will always miss the word he was >>>> looking for >>>> >>>> to make his entire point of view correct....”resonance rise” this was >>>> the >>>> term he missed. >>>> >>>> and to understand this >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance_(alternating-current_circuits) >>>> >>>> Now my point for you Eddo >>>> >>>> You are taking the term “resonance rise” out of the technical >>>> connotation >>>> and understand it as “Opslingering”but this connotation makes me realise >>>> where you want to point out with your wave equations, you are trying to >>>> avoid your own mu states, >>>> >>>> but fail to find the words, like Pirsig.Pirsig avoided his own Mu >>>> states! >>>> >>>> The trick is in the imaginary slow-motion of indiana jones his whip, the >>>> resonance rise in de wave is reflecting back to the hand that is on the >>>> end >>>> of the whip,but the reflection moves up in amplitude depending on the >>>> lenght of the whip and the induced amplitude in the first place. >>>> >>>> This kind of reasearch is what you should be performing Eddo,instead of >>>> pissing of Mr Buchanan. >>>> >>>> en Blijf weg van “opslingering”!--resonance rise, en de stilte van de >>>> Mu. >>>> >>>> Study these things before you will become Mu only, there is enough to >>>> grasp. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Groet , Adrie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/4/6 Eddo Rats <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> > @dumb >>>> > Typical you to pick this part being my soft spot as someone with a >>>> > psychiatric hystory being honest about it. You are not a philosopher >>>> but a >>>> > moq philosophologist a politician and a narcistic priest that wants >>>> me out >>>> > of his church. Good luck with your church. You win! :D probably >>>> dropped >>>> > mathematics at highschool. This is that above the door >>>> > Plato<http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Mathematicians/Plato.html> >>>> > inscribed >>>> > "Let no one who is not a geometer enter" >>>> > >>>> > My advice to you, read ZMM where pirsig goes to chicago again and >>>> again and >>>> > again and again. Look in the mirror and think very hard. To me >>>> you're a >>>> > lost case but never give up hope . >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 2013/4/5 david buchanan <[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> > > Eddo answered the million dollar question: What's the point? >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > ...Understanding this relationship became even more important during >>>> > > psychotic episodes when i noticed that the amounts of sensation i >>>> had to >>>> > > deal with became so high that it had a distorting effect on the >>>> > personality >>>> > > i was (as a collection of concepts in my subconscious mind). This >>>> made me >>>> > > even work harder to be able to understand this relationship. Now >>>> after >>>> > > twenty years i thought of a way to understand this, and this gives >>>> me >>>> > tools >>>> > > in my head to regulate myself when the sensations tend to become to >>>> high. >>>> > > So "the point" to me has very personal value... >>>> > > P.S. Lets continue this discussion in the new thread i made "Quality >>>> > > defined!" because we are hijacking this thread which was started >>>> with >>>> > > another purpose by somebody else. >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > dmb says: >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Sorry, but I'm not interested. Since Pirsig says (about a thousand >>>> times) >>>> > > that Quality can't be defined and since your interested in mostly >>>> > yourself, >>>> > > I don't think you're even talking about the MOQ. That's the point >>>> and >>>> > > purpose of this forum and I'm not qualified to help you regulate >>>> your >>>> > > sensations anyway. >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> > > Archives: >>>> > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> > > >>>> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> > Archives: >>>> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> > http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> parser >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>> >>> >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
