[Ian] So Arlo, your working definition of coherence has noting to do with being definable...
[Arlo] I can't define Beethoven's 9th Symphony, or Cezanne's Pines and Rocks (Fontainebleau?), but I'd consider them coherent patterns. I can't reduce "man is a wolf" to a 'scientistic' statement/definition, but its a coherent pattern. >From Merriam-Webster: Coherence: systematic or logical connection or consistency : integration of diverse elements, relationships, or values Definable: able to be defined (to determine or identify the essential qualities or meaning of) : able to be specified to have a particular function or operation Pirsig holds Dynamic Quality to be indefinable, and yet states, "The tests of truth are logical consistency, agreement with experience, and economy of explanation. The Metaphysics of Quality satisfies these." (LILA) Metaphysics with an indefinable central term, yet still coherent. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
