> Quoting "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > DQ has no pattern I agree, but sq are static patterns IN > DQ, left behind they may > > be but they still have to be a pattern in something. > > A helpful metaphor: > > A wave is a static pattern in a dynamic medium, it is a > wave (Static) but still > > made of water (dynamic (though not in the MOQ sense)) >
Platt: > I'm speaking solely of Dynamic in the MOQ sense. Water in > that sense is not Dynamic. No, its not, but the difference in order between the water and the wave is analogous to the difference between static and dynamic values. Do you agree? > > > > The "motive" of evolution according to Pirsig is to increase > > > versatility and > > > freedom. We see this throughout evolutionary history as > > > consciousness expanded. > > > > I was very specific in how the word is being used, and this > doesn't address the > > point of the sentence. > > By saying "the motive is versatility and freedom" you > attempt to define DQ - slap > > on the wrist Platt. > > Then slap Pirsig on the wrist, too. Perhaps I should, if in one section he says quality cannot be defined but then goes on to define it - perhaps deserves more than just a slap. Luckily he doesn't do this - you just quote him out of context. > > > > Sorry, don't understand. Humans consist of all four levels > > > plus ability to > > > respond to DQ. Cats consist of two levels - inorganic and > > > biological. You > > > seem to be saying cats can also be intellectuals. But, I'm > > > sure that can't be > > > what you mean. > > > > Thank you for your doubt. > > Static patterns at all levels repond to DQ this is self > evident. The cat is > > consicous (after a fashion) and its experience moment by > moment is dynamic quality > > same as it is for you or I. > > Disagree. Auw! > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the > Government Secure Intranet Anti-Virus service supplied by > Cable&Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM > Certificate Number 2006/04/0007.) In case of problems, please > call your organisations IT Helpdesk. > Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, > monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. > > > This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the > attention of the addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, > disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. If you are > not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and > inform the sender by return e-mail. > > This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the > attention of the addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, > disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. If you are > not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and > inform the sender by return e-mail. > > This e-mail (whether you are the sender or the recipient) may > be monitored, recorded and retained by the Ministry of > Justice. E-mail monitoring / blocking software may be used, > and e-mail content may be read at any time. You have a > responsibility to ensure laws are not broken when composing > or forwarding e-mails and their contents. > This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of the addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and inform the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of the addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and inform the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail (whether you are the sender or the recipient) may be monitored, recorded and retained by the Ministry of Justice. E-mail monitoring / blocking software may be used, and e-mail content may be read at any time. You have a responsibility to ensure laws are not broken when composing or forwarding e-mails and their contents. The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet Anti-Virus service supplied by Cable&Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2006/04/0007.) On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
