Quoting ARLO J BENSINGER JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [Arlo previously] > The question here is give me an example of something Animal X could do, as a > result of being responsive to DQ, that UTOE (and other animals today) can no > longer do. > > [Platt] > If you can specify the specific individual animal that moved evolution along > you will be a hero among biologists and probably receive a Nobel prize. Maybe > it was that half-bird, half-dinosaur that was found in a fossil. But I would > look for its predecessor and the one before that and the one before that. > > [Arlo] > This is not an answer to the question. Give me an example of something Animal > X > could do, as an animal that could respond to DQ, that no animal today can do. > There is Animal X over by that tree... tell me what it could do that no animal > today can do.
Why don't you think it's not an answer? > [Arlo previously] > Let's go back to Time X. There is Animal X over by the tree. In this time, > could all other single animals also respond to DQ? Was it only some of the > single animals, while other single animals could not? Was it all other animals > like Animal X (if Animal X was a sabretooth, does that mean all individual > sabertoothes could respond to DQ)? > > [Platt] > My simple mind cannot follow your convolutions. > > [Arlo] > You've said, there existed once a single animal that could respond to DQ. > Could > all single animals of the same species also respond to DQ? For example, let's > say Animal X was a wolf. Could all wolves respond to DQ? Or could some but not > others? Why a wolf? > [Platt] > Let me pose a reframe (but please answer the original as well). Would you say > that ALL humans can respond to DQ? So that even a human infant, left at birth > on a deserted island and miraculously surviving into adulthood, would also > respond to DQ? This would seem to make it a biological trait that enabled > responsiveness ot DQ. If not, what would it be? > > [Platt] > Say what? > > [Arlo] > 1. Can all humans respond to DQ? Define "all humans." Do you include those with Alzheimer's? > 2. What commonality among humans makes humans capable of responding to DQ? Is > it biological, for example our "brain structure"? Don't know. What do you think it is? > [Arlo previously] > So there was an overlap when "man" existed, that both individual humans and > individuals animals could respond to DQ? > > [Platt] > Please specify when man existed. > > [Arlo] > I know you're trying to play rheotical games, Platt, but try to answer this > one > without the schtick. What schtick?. > 3. Was there ever a point in time when there simultaneously existed both (a) a > human that could respond to DQ and (b) an animal that could respond to DQ? What human or animal did you have in mind? > [Arlo previously] > To clarify, evolution has stopped regarding all things except "man"? > > [Platt] > All things? No. > > [Arlo] > Give me an example of something that is still evolving that does not involve > "man". A parallel universe. Why don't you take your Perry Mason tactics and ask Jos about his interpretation of Dynamic value? ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
