Quoting ARLO J BENSINGER JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [Arlo previously] > This is not an answer to the question. Give me an example of something Animal > X > could do, as an animal that could respond to DQ, that no animal today can do. > There is Animal X over by that tree... tell me what it could do that no animal > today can do. > > [Platt] > Why don't you think it's not an answer? > > [Arlo] > Game time, eh?
No, just tired of playing your game. > > [Arlo previously] > You've said, there existed once a single animal that could respond to DQ. > Could > all single animals of the same species also respond to DQ? For example, let's > say Animal X was a wolf. Could all wolves respond to DQ? Or could some but not > others? > > [Platt] > Why a wolf? > > [Arlo] > No reason. Reference to Phaedrus, I suppose. So, answer or games? No reason? Figures. > [Arlo previously] > 1. Can all humans respond to DQ? > > [Platt] > Define "all humans." Do you include those with Alzheimer's? > > [Arlo] > Sure, aren't Alzheimer's patients human? What's your answer? Do you include multi-personalities? > [Arlo previously] > 2. What commonality among humans makes humans capable of responding to DQ? Is > it biological, for example our "brain structure"? > > [Platt] > Don't know. What do you think it is? > > [Arlo] > Social activity. That's why I said a desert-island individual could only > respond to DQ on the biological level, and hence no concept of "self" on a > social or intellectual level. What do you think it is? Speculate. So how come you think the unsocial wind responds to DQ? > [Arlo previously] > So there was an overlap when "man" existed, that both individual humans and > individuals animals could respond to DQ? > > [Platt] > Please specify when man existed. > > [Arlo] > Let's take what we consider to be homo sapiens, what's that about 200,000 > years > ago? During this time, was there any simultaneous overlap as I mentioned? No? If you were alive them, perhaps you can tell us? > [Arlo had asked] > 3. Was there ever a point in time when there simultaneously existed both (a) a > human that could respond to DQ and (b) an animal that could respond to DQ? > > [Platt] > What human or animal did you have in mind? > > [Arlo] > Any. Try not to descend to these games, Platt. I'm tired of your little game of your playing Perry Mason. > [Arlo previously] > Give me an example of something that is still evolving that does not involve > "man". > > [Platt] > A parallel universe. > > [Arlo] > Is there anything in our universe, apart from that which involves "man", that > is still evolving? What about on earth? Examples? In our universe? Please define? Do you think man is still evolving? How so? > [Platt] > Why don't you take your Perry Mason tactics and ask Jos about his > interpretation of Dynamic value? > > [Arlo] > Because I am more interested in your claim, and from what I can tell I pretty > much agree with Jos (and SA). Please explain what Jos and SA are saying in your own words. > Or, you could say, "I hold an absurd position that I am unable to justify or > defend, but I wish to hold it anyway because I am more interested in clinging > to my beliefs than I am in expanding my understanding", and we can just leave > it at that. It would sure beat the little run-arounds and rhetoric games that > say the same thing. Just thought I'd give you this out... Or you could say, "I hold an absurd position that everything experiences DQ all the time which I am unable to justify or provide one scintilla of evidence for, but I wish to hold it anyway because I'm more interested in clinging to my beliefs than I am in expanding my understanding, and we can just leave it at that." ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
