Quoting "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Platt > > Keeping it short: > > Tides are a static pattern, > > "Sperarated by derivative order" Means one's derived from the other, > fundamentally > separate in terms of pattern but identical in terms of constituent.,
Sorry. I still don't understand. > The biological level elements of what an animal is are static patterns, any > cultual level elements are also static patterns, and and so on into more > complex > animals. Patterns at all levels are patterns in DQ. I agree with you entirely > but > so what - so is everything else. Animals have no culture if that's what you are suggesting. Also, patterns at all levels are not patterns of DQ. DQ has no pattern. Patterns at all levels were left in the wake of DQ. > On motives - My usage of the word is sloppy, by motive I mean that where a > preference expressed at a choice point in the direction of "good", that > "good" is > the motive. The reason it happens in one direction rather than another is > because > it has the "motive" to be better. This isn't a static pattern as we are > unable to > define what that "good" is. (Must be a more succinct way to say that) The "motive" of evolution according to Pirsig is to increase versatility and freedom. We see this throughout evolutionary history as consciousness expanded. > Lila - It sets cultural and intellectual patterns above biological ones, then > quite separately it assigns humans to the first category and other animals to > the > second. Its the second bit that I'm saying is wrong, the structure and > relative > moralities are the fundamental bit and can be preserved wherever it is that > you > decice a particular entity resides. Sorry, don't understand. Humans consist of all four levels plus ability to respond to DQ. Cats consist of two levels - inorganic and biological. You seem to be saying cats can also be intellectuals. But, I'm sure that can't be what you mean. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
