> >       [gav]
> > > > the neo-darwinian materialist view of
> evolution is
> > > > narrow and soulless. 
> > > > the christian fundamentalist view of creation
> and
> > > > intelligent design are scientifically flawed.
> > > > the 'debate' goes nowhere.
> > 
> >      [Platt previously] 
> > > Right. Science hasn't a clue of how order
> emerges from disorder, or meaning from chaos.

     [SA previously] 
> >      Platt, don't you also mean christian
> > fundamentalist view doesn't have a clue about what
> > order is/science.

     [Platt] 
> I don't know about Christian fundamentalists, but
the MOQ explains
> how order emerges from disorder and meaning from
chaos by 
> attributing the cause (or preference) to the intent
and creative
> force of DQ to make things better.

     Platt, I just see your previous response as bias.
 You only mention how science is skewed, and you left
out how christian fundamentalism is skewed.  
     Beside the point, if you notice my post to you in
another thread where it is not science, but the
scientific philosophy now in use to understand science
in which doesn't provide a clear view of what science
is and can do.
     Of course, I agree with you that the MoQ explains
how order emerges from disorder, and to use DQ as the
creative force is a good generalized analogue.  Why
knock science when it seems you just knock the
philosophy used to understand science, which today
logical positivism is declared the best philosophy
guiding science today.  Science is just experiments
and collective input and data.  Philosophy is the
guiding system, the view in current science.  Remove
this SOM philosophy with MoQ, and science will make
more sense.

woods,
SA


       
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