Quoting Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > > [gav]
> > > > > the neo-darwinian materialist view of
> > evolution is
> > > > > narrow and soulless.
> > > > > the christian fundamentalist view of creation
> > and
> > > > > intelligent design are scientifically flawed.
> > > > > the 'debate' goes nowhere.
> > >
> > > [Platt previously]
> > > > Right. Science hasn't a clue of how order
> > emerges from disorder, or meaning from chaos.
>
> [SA previously]
> > > Platt, don't you also mean christian
> > > fundamentalist view doesn't have a clue about what
> > > order is/science.
>
> [Platt]
> > I don't know about Christian fundamentalists, but
> the MOQ explains
> > how order emerges from disorder and meaning from
> chaos by
> > attributing the cause (or preference) to the intent
> and creative
> > force of DQ to make things better.
>
> Platt, I just see your previous response as bias.
> You only mention how science is skewed, and you left
> out how christian fundamentalism is skewed.
All philosophies and religions are biased and skewed, some worse than others.
Beside the point, if you notice my post to you in
> another thread where it is not science, but the
> scientific philosophy now in use to understand science
> in which doesn't provide a clear view of what science
> is and can do.
Sorry, I have no idea what that means.
Of course, I agree with you that the MoQ explains
> how order emerges from disorder, and to use DQ as the
> creative force is a good generalized analogue. Why
> knock science when it seems you just knock the
> philosophy used to understand science, which today
> logical positivism is declared the best philosophy
> guiding science today. Science is just experiments
> and collective input and data. Philosophy is the
> guiding system, the view in current science. Remove
> this SOM philosophy with MoQ, and science will make
> more sense.
Again, I don't follow you. It's the view of current science I find
lacking in explanatory power, like attributing what can't be explained
to "emergence" and "chance."
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