I agree that most buildings coming on line are upscale buildings.  I also
agree that affordability (not availability, discrimination or bad-records)
is what primarily causes homelessness.

Given the increasing vacancy rate, isn't increasing the availability of
vouchers (ala Section 8) a better solution than building more apartment
complexes?  Do you know there is a multi-year waiting list for section 8
vouchers - the list is so long that they are no longer adding names?  (my
experience is with St. Paul PHA, I am unsure if Minneapolis PHA has the same
problem).

A comment on up-scale buildings.  Today it costs $90 - $100 per square foot
to build a new apartment building.  Since most 2 bedroom apartments require
about 1000 square foot (when you include part of the commons area in the
calculation), the building cost is $90K to $100K for a 2 bedroom apartment.
Given the cost, it is prohibitive to build a new apartment complex unless it
is upscale or heavily subsidized.

I agree that vacancy rates are worst in upscale buildings.  However, vacancy
rates are increasing in all rental market segments.  I personally know of
many 2 bedroom apartments -- vacant today -- that rent for less than
$700/month.

I appreciate your time.

Bill Cullen
Hopkins - Landlord.

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I think you have listed many of the right reasons..
I think the primary reason is the affordability issue; not discrimination,
not bad-records etc etc.
However, this is not to say that the city should start tackling the issue
with municipal dollars.
The market will adjust.

How do I (for whatever my opinion is worth,) think we got to 6.6%?
Many properties coming on line over the last year were likely conceived at
the height of the economy and
investment capital was easy to get.  If you look at these properties it
appears that there
was a clear "buy-in" to the concept that everything has to be "upscale" or
at least "upper-scale."
This makes the project cost more...which will dictate higher rents.  Now,
just when they are coming on line,
the economy is not so great and people either can't or prefer not to pay
those rents.

Now let's compound the problem.  These people may never come back to that
market because
rates have been so historically low and these people (the $1,000/month
crowd) have likely 
(and hopefully) purchased homes.



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