Gary Hoover wrote:

List-members, I submit that you will get far more from reading Stan Goff's
overview of Kerry's "Energy Plan" at Counterpunch than from looking to any
local media for information.  Read Goff's article *not* as a critique of
Kerry, but rather as a critique of how the "dismal science" of economics has
utterly failed us as science, because it is rooted in pre-scientific
monarchicalism and feudalism.  Note also how the "energy economy" works.
One read through this article will tell you more about what Linden Hills,
Whittier or Phillips will be like in 5 or 10 years than anything the local
press -- excluding the Pulse -- will tell you.

http://www.counterpunch.org/goff08132004.html

In my short time here I have evolved great respect for Gary and agree with many of his views. This message in particular resonated with me but I do want to take issue with some things.

I haven't yet been able to read the article in full detail but rather
concentrated on the sections that immediately stood out, primarily
at the end.

The article makes the excellent point that thermodynamics ultimately
rules energy policy but I believe it's a little misleading in places.
For example, solar is discredited by the article because it takes
more energy to make a photocell than it produces.  But this ignores
the fact that the energy source is _external_ to the isolated system
consisting of the earth.  The second law doesn't apply in such an
open system.  In other words, with solar the earth is no longer an
isolated system.  Yes, photocells are inefficient and need more
research applied to them.  This shouldn't discourage their development.
Their energy source is essentially limitless.

The article goes on to criticize solar using the age-old "cloudy day"
argument.  We have batteries for that.  Yes, batteries lose energy
but remember that we are getting it directly from the sun.  When that
resource is exhausted we can pretty much forget about living here
anyway.

The same counterarguments apply to the critiques of wind and wave
energy.  They are all powered by the sun.  Actually, all our energy
sources are ultimately powered by the sun.  The difference is in
the time-to-extraction.  It takes a lot longer for the sun to
produce fossil fuels.  If photocells could be made to extract
large amounts of energy relatively quickly, then they become very
viable.

With nuclear, I truly believe that a lot of the fears are unjustified.
Yes, nuclear waste is radioactive.  So is the stuff coming out of
coal-fired plants and that contains arsenic and other nasty stuff
to boot.  The waste is _less_ radioactive than what went in.  Of course
it is concentrated in a small area which is what makes it more
dangerous.  Reactors exist to reprocess waste.  The problem is that
no more will ever be built because they end up producing weapons-grade
material.

As for nuclear producing more pollution (through the refining process)
than fossil fuels, I find this highly unlikely.  If this were true,
then by taking all the energy spent refining the uranium we could
power more things with fossil fuels (those spent refining the ore)
than we could by fissioning the refined ore.  Essentially, we are
saying that refining uranium takes more energy than is released in
the fission process.  I find this highly doubtful given that the
energy density of nuclear fuel is proportional to the speed of light
squared.  I'm no nuclear scientist so if I'm off base, please
speak up.  Someone with real expertise ought to weigh in here.

Nuclear is not sustainable because uranium is a finite resource.
But I believe it is a realistic short-term alternative to fossil
fuels.

Which gets us to the issue of sustainability.  I completely agree
that we need sustainable systems.  But getting there will require
much research and development and that will take energy produced
in non-sustainable ways.  Once we accept that and conserve those
fuels as much as possible we can start making progress.  This is
going to be a long process and unfortunately that's why we haven't
moved on it yet.

Political organization and action has some effect, but remember that most
political action is co-opted by powers whose self-interest is completely
divorced from "we the people" or democracy.

I'd clarify this by saying that _partisan_ political action is not representative of the people. Unfortunately, that is the dominant mode of operation, especially today. It didn't used to be so bad. Many here probably remember how well our state legislature worked in a non-partisan way in the past.

I can name several local and national organizations that act
collectively within our political system.  They are successfully
bringing about positive change because they act in a non-partisan
manner.  I have the utmost faith in the fundamentals of our
political system.  It's not perfect but it's one of the best
out there right now.  I believe that its implementation has
deteriorated over time but that's as much our fault as it is
the fault of any "special interest," including political parties.
We _do_ have the power to change it.  But we need each other to
do it.

David Greene
Lowry Hill East
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