This is the clock I made using Richard Scales B-8091 clock PCB.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/142414439207058/search/?q=b-8091

On Wednesday, September 18, 2024 at 12:41:14 AM UTC-4 gregebert wrote:

> Those are very valuable tubes, so if you are willing to design your own 
> driver and the PC board, I would do that. I've made several clocks and 
> never had a design problem that affected the tubes. Even if you find a 
> board to purchase, see if any of the following apply:
>
> Some of my suggestions:
> #1. I dont like sockets because they put stress on the tube pins. Some of 
> them grip the pins very hard and it's difficult to insert or remove the 
> tubes, which adds to the risk of bending or breaking the pins or putting 
> stress on the glass. Instead, I use socket pins soldered into the PCB, and 
> the force to insert/remove tubes is very low.
>
> #2. Direct drive. There's no need to multiplex individual tubes, and 
> there's no cost benefit when tubes are worth hundreds of dollars apiece and 
> the drive electronics is at most a few dollars. Multiplexing requires 
> higher current, and that degrades the tube's lifetime.
>
> #3. Use a current regulator, and set the current at the recommended spec 
> value; too high and you wear-out the tube. Too low and you risk cathode 
> poisoning. A single anode resistor per-tube is OK, but as the anode voltage 
> varies, so does the current (no such problem with a current regulator, 
> though). You can mitigate this by using a higher anode supply voltage and 
> larger anode resistor, at the expense of more wasted energy. As tubes age, 
> their striking voltage may increase, so having a higher anode voltage will 
> help mitigate this.
>
> #4. PIR sensor. Turn off the tubes if nobody is there to watch them.
>
> #5. Protect the tubes inside a case, and make sure there is enough 
> ventilation so the heat doesn't build-up inside. On my later designs I have 
> a thermal sensor (sometimes several) so that software can monitor critical 
> temperatures and shutdown if things get too warm.
>
> #6. Depoisoning routine to exercise all cathodes.
>
> #7. Backlighting (or base lighting). I havn't done this on any of my 
> clocks, and I've never had problems with tubes not firing-up. Others have 
> reported problems without backlighting. It can have aesthetic value, though 
> I'm not fond of it.
>
> That should cover the necessities for the tubes; there are always lots of 
> other features that can be done, especially if the clock has open-source 
> software (or you develop it on your own).
>
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2024 at 8:17:28 PM UTC-7 Chachi88 wrote:
>
>> I am climbing stairs from the foot of the mountain to sit at the feet of 
>> all you nixie gurus.
>>
>> What is the current state of the art for remote driver boards?  I am 
>> aware some of the older drivers are not as reliable or can cause the tubes 
>> to degrade quicker.  Some of the new options I am seeing have "cathode 
>> poisoning prevention"  I have recently come upon qty 6 of the NL8091's and 
>> their original sockets and socket mounting plate, which I wish to reuse for 
>> a clock. Are there any off the shelf boards even capable of driving this 
>> tube?  I was looking at a board on ebay that comes with an IR remote but it 
>> seems too good to be true, I would be willing to spend 5 times as much for 
>> a board that was properly documented and put together and had some sort of 
>> pedigree...
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any advice or direction you can give.
>>
>

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