hey karen i think your thoughts are beautiful - understanding bobs feelings though :(
this list is a feast and a challenge :-) max On 17/10/2007, karen blissett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >I believe this is solipsism run riot... always ending up its own arse.... > How about an effort at clarity, simplicity and beauty?... the qualities of > the best ideas in art, science, philosophy etc?... > > Aha, > > Are you asking Alan to ignore his subjective voice, mutate away into a > realm of modernist invisibility. A sliding from personal and intuitive > politick to a static non-fluid essence of accepted poise. > > His language and functions antagonise the ideals and pedagogical, crumbly > mono-theisms that choke us into accepting the norm. > > Perhaps his voice is performance, a noise that thrives on the energy of > being, this perpetual state of being is irrational, illogical and engulfed > in total subjectivity. > > Surely total subjectivity is a form simplicity in its own right and > therefore a kin to beauty, thus flouting the lies of science with impunity > and simultaneously freeing the voice and mind from the bondage of unreality > or our presumed realities. > > Formal concerns are not in any way pure, purity is imaginary, transparent > and subjective, as is beauty. > > In a previous life, Plato believed that he had been a bush. Pythagoras saw > a similarity between the substance of his brain and his own semen. As far as > I a concerned, how Alan expounds his noise is his own business and creative > choice. > > I may not always agree with the content but I do agree with the context > :-) > > karen > > > > On 10/16/07, bob catchpole < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Renee, > > > > I'm all for sharing ideas, insights, inspirations... I was objecting to > > willful obfuscation... What ideas are are evolving here?... > > > > "the avatartist are all space, all time, visible, invisible, > > transparent, > > translucent, of here and there opaque, they murmur we are all > > avatartist, > > are of saying nothing, whispering nothing, murmuring nothing, all in the > > true world. the avatartist are writing this, us, them, there, here, now, > > then, they are writing this-us-them-there-here-now-then, they are > > writing > > and writing, they are writing nothing...." > > > > I believe this is solipsism run riot... always ending up its own > > arse.... How about an effort at clarity, simplicity and beauty?... the > > qualities of the best ideas in art, science, philosophy etc?... > > > > Bob > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Renee Turner < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > > <[email protected] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 16 October, 2007 8:33:29 AM > > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] no > > > > Hi Alan, > > > > I also appreciate your posts and watching your ideas evolve. So, as > > far as I'm concerned, keep them coming. > > > > One of the things I like about this list is that people can present > > things in process. To me, it's the very spirit of netbehaviour :-) > > > > best, > > > > Renee > > www.geuzen.org > > On 15 Oct 2007, at 15:55, Alan Sondheim wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > no it's not bullshit; I'm working through ontologies and > > > epistemologies of > > > avatars/the virtual, using both formal topology and Buddhist > > > philosophy, > > > specifically several works by Nagarjuna as well as the > > > Hevajratantra and > > > Visuddhimaggha. Terms like the true world reference emptiness and the > > > absence of worlding, 'gathering' references aggregrates, and filtering > > > comes from things I've written before on inscription. Since you've > > > called > > > it bullshit, I really don't want to engage in a debate about its > > > merits > > > and if Marc wants I'll desist here, but from my end (and for that > > > matter > > > the reading of other people I respect) I'm on to something and want to > > > follow it through; certainly it's relevant literally to netbehaviour. > > > > > > - Alan > > > > > > ====================================================================== > > > > > = > > > Work on YouTube, blog at http://nikuko.blogspot.com . Tel > > > 718-813-3285. > > > Webpage directory http://www.asondheim.org . Email: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://clc.as.wvu.edu:8080/clc/Members/sondheim for theory; also check > > > WVU Zwiki, Google for recent. 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