i am on to something Positivity it is on me Positivity DOLPHINS, COCONUTS TREES, MY HEAD IN POSITIVITY I went to the mayor my inscription is not ready it will take more 2 weeks POSITIVITY have no money on the bank the check someone gave is out of funds i have no proeminent job not even a job POSITIVITY the sun shines as hell more than ever to live near the equator line is not the same as ten years ago my skin now burns at 8 in the morning POSITIVITY i walk on shadows and get new names from it none recognizes me anymore POSITIVITY i take the coconut, brake on the rock, take the water and wash the face. there is nothing more than salt POSITIVITY i don't have how to pay the electricity line this month but i never had at all so,
POSITIVITY Em Quarta 17 Outubro 2007 22:40, Dion Laurent escreveu: > I'm on to something > BULLSHIT > they are on to me! > BULLSHIT > I'm on to something > MAD COW > AVATAR, MY FOOT IN BULLSHIT, > My cow died, > the fucking red ants, > what is that for holy, fuckin' cow > have you seen the holiness of a red ant, > talk about at one, fucking meal of meat, buzzards alike > thank krishna for the wolf, the coyote, what should they eat, > rabbit, carrot, juice > a scorpion on the soul of crickets, cricket ranch, > what a place, vishnu professes, I am one, one owl, > we hear your whoot, hoot, whoooooo, who , how lovely, > whispering whoots from the dry creek, arroyo > the cats killed another fucking frog > how can I believe you're disease, your unease, your face, your faith, > your impossible place in believe(ing) > 5000 years or so ago, 3000 thousand, sounds of past, I would rather fast, > starve, bake in the heat of my avatar, oil money war bar(code) every(thing) > and sell it as my face, my face, our faith, oh bullshit, the holy cow, the > red ants, the bones, the boneyard, my cow dies, ghost, leaving behind > moses, and the red ants, the fire ants, the faith, the faithlessness, who > the fuck are you, avatar, oh great one, where the fuck is my dead cow and > who the hell are the red ants that ate his meat > I'm on to something > eating red fire ants > crickets > creak > creek > click > > > > > Dion Laurent > http://www.dionlaurent.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Szpakowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] no > > > Ho-hum -we've been here before- a lot- with similar > > 'discussions' of Alan's work. > > How much of Alan's work have you seen Bob? Do you have > > any idea of the context of his work? Did you even > > attempt get some sort of wider picture of what he does > > before you attacked him on the basis of a single > > piece? > > I understand that it is in the nature of a discussion > > list that people come to it afresh, that work is > > posted without any obvious signposts or easy context > > but that does place a responsibility on the critic to > > *inform* themselves before rushing into judgement. > > If you'd cited, perhaps, a couple of Alan's movies, > > some of his music/sound work, some of the poetry ( or > > even given some indication that you'd *bothered* to > > find out that a *body* of widely varying work exists & > > that some of the admitted peculiarities of the piece > > you attacked could begin to be understood against that > > background) & *then* made a reasoned case for why it's > > somehow unworthy then I might have disagreed but you'd > > have fulfilled your responsibilites as an commentator > > & we'd have a starting point for a genuine discussion. > > michael > > > > --- bob catchpole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Karen, > >> > >> "Total subjectivity" is the unavoidable condition of > >> babies... I find in an adult, the relentless spew is > >> obnoxious egoism... James Joyce seemed to have done > >> the subjective voice so much better 90 years ago... > >> > >> Bob > >> > >> ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: karen blissett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed > >> creativity <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 17 October, 2007 2:08:23 AM > >> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] no > >> > >> >I believe this is solipsism run riot... always > >> > >> ending up its own arse.... How about an effort at > >> clarity, simplicity and beauty?... the qualities of > >> the best ideas in art, science, philosophy etc?... > >> > >> Aha, > >> > >> > >> Are you asking Alan to ignore his subjective voice, > >> mutate away into a realm of modernist invisibility. > >> A sliding from personal and intuitive politick to a > >> static non-fluid essence of accepted poise. > >> > >> His language and functions antagonise the ideals and > >> pedagogical, crumbly mono-theisms that choke us into > >> accepting the norm. > >> > >> > >> Perhaps his voice is performance, a noise that > >> thrives on the energy of being, this perpetual state > >> of being is irrational, illogical and engulfed in > >> total subjectivity. > >> > >> Surely total subjectivity is a form simplicity in > >> its own right and therefore a kin to beauty, thus > >> flouting the lies of science with impunity and > >> simultaneously freeing the voice and mind from the > >> bondage of unreality or our presumed realities. > >> > >> > >> Formal concerns are not in any way pure, purity is > >> imaginary, transparent and subjective, as is beauty. > >> > >> In a previous life, Plato believed that he had been > >> a bush. Pythagoras saw a similarity between the > >> substance of his brain and his own semen. As far as > >> I a concerned, how Alan expounds his noise is his > >> own business and creative choice. > >> > >> > >> I may not always agree with the content but I do > >> agree with the context :-) > >> > >> karen > >> > >> > >> > >> On 10/16/07, bob catchpole < > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi Renee, > >> > >> I'm all for sharing ideas, insights, inspirations... > >> I was objecting to willful obfuscation... What ideas > >> are are evolving here?... > >> > >> > >> "the avatartist are all space, all time, visible, > >> invisible, > >> transparent, > >> translucent, of here and there opaque, they murmur > >> we are all > >> avatartist, > >> are of saying nothing, whispering nothing, murmuring > >> nothing, all in > >> the > >> true world. the avatartist are writing this, us, > >> them, there, here, > >> now, > >> then, they are writing > >> this-us-them-there-here-now-then, they are > >> writing > >> and writing, they are writing nothing...." > >> > >> I believe this is solipsism run riot... always > >> ending up its own arse.... How about an effort at > >> clarity, simplicity and beauty?... the qualities of > >> the best ideas in art, science, philosophy etc?... > >> > >> > >> Bob > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Renee Turner < > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed > >> creativity <[email protected] > >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, 16 October, 2007 8:33:29 AM > >> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] no > >> > >> Hi Alan, > >> > >> I also appreciate your posts and watching your ideas > >> evolve. So, as > >> far as I'm concerned, keep them coming. > >> > >> > >> One of the things I like about this list is that > >> people can present > >> things in process. To me, it's the very spirit of > >> netbehaviour :-) > >> > >> best, > >> > >> Renee > >> > >> www.geuzen.org > >> > >> On 15 Oct 2007, at 15:55, Alan Sondheim wrote: > >> > no it's not bullshit; I'm working through > >> > >> ontologies and > >> > >> > epistemologies of > >> > avatars/the virtual, using both formal topology > >> > >> and Buddhist > >> > >> > philosophy, > >> > specifically several works by Nagarjuna as well as > >> > >> the > >> > >> > Hevajratantra and > >> > Visuddhimaggha. Terms like the true world > >> > >> reference emptiness and the > >> > >> > absence of worlding, 'gathering' references > >> > >> aggregrates, and > >> filtering > >> > >> > comes from things I've written before on > >> > >> inscription. Since you've > >> > >> > called > >> > it bullshit, I really don't want to engage in a > >> > >> debate about its > >> > >> > merits > >> > and if Marc wants I'll desist here, but from my > >> > >> end (and for that > >> > >> > matter > >> > the reading of other people I respect) I'm on to > >> > >> something and want > >> to > >> > >> > follow it through; certainly it's relevant > >> > >> literally to netbehaviour. > >> > >> > - Alan _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
