Ian Greenway wrote the following about Re: [netconnect] Re: AmigaNG:

> Jason Murray said..
>  
> > I can't help but think that some of the Amiga advocates REALLY haven't
> > taken a look at the PC in the last year or so. Okay, maybe the PC's
> > solution is to throw brute processing force at anything. But, it
> > works... 
> 
> I could almost argue the opposite:  Many PC-fanatics haven't seen the
> true state of the machine.  An avid games player with the latest
> cutting edge hardware sitting in his bedroom will indeed be very
> pleased at his purchase.  He'll be just as pleased in 6 months time
> when he buys a new one, too. :)

I think the whole hardware out-of-date-in-6-months argument for PCs
died a long time ago, and is just a noble way of bitching about the
Wintel platform.  IMO, once Intel passed the Pentium Pro 200 there was
no such thing as a slow system.  OK, so a games player may feel the
need for a 500MHz system to get 50fps out of the latest 3D games, but
we aren't talking about games here, are we?

> What such people don't see is that the /average/ PC is not a 500MHz
> machine, but some sort of grotty P133 with 16Mb ram.  This is whats in
> offices all over the country.  Thats what people have to use all this
> new software on.  Every so often a company will upgrade its machines. 
> Very seldom to the latest spec, and almost always the old ones will
> filter down to other departments.  Private users bought high-spec
> machines two years ago, and now wonder why they are slow..  Computing
> is a rich man's hobby. :-/

It's not always about upgrading though.  I work in a small University
funded department with a tight budget, and we've just bought in a
bunch of PCs for controlling new hardware.  The lowest spec is a
PentiumII 350, the highest is a PentiumIII 450.  PentiumII 350 is now
basically obsolete, and could be considered entry-level by a lot of
people.  I can get my hands on a brand new, off-the-shelf PentiumII
350 with all the trimmings for about �700.  That's nothing!  That is
as cheap as desktop computing gets.  My Amiga Multisync monitor cost
more than half that, and my PPC board could have funded everything
apart from the mouse!!

> If we're going to compare computer hardware, lets be fair.  A pc will
> win on hardware spec alone, granted.  I maintain an Amiga can often
> win on productivity.  But don't compare a 4Mb 030 with a 128Mb 500Mhz
> K7... Please..

My PPC card is just over a year old, and represents the leading edge
of current Amiga hardware.  Our Pentium Pro 200 systems are just over
two years old, and /are/ faster.  The 10 month old Pentium II 350 is
just blindingly quick.

What I'm really saying is that fast PC hardware is out there, and it's
very cheap.  I totally agree with Chris's argument that a PIII 550
running UAE would outperform an 030/50, plus you'd have all the
benefits of the 8/12Mb GFX card, integral sound card, tower case etc.

Considering that Intel will have 800MHz systems in the next six
months, and GHz system in the next 12 months, I still beleive that a
Pentium based, as opposed to PPC based, NG Amiga, with Classic
emulation would be a stronger, more future proof system than any other
type of hardware.

Totty  <8^)

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Totty has an Amiga A1200, with 68060/50 and 603e/200 PPC.
32Mb RAM.  8x ATAPI CD.  1.7Gb HD.  ShapeShifter V3.10 + OS 7.5.5
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