personally, i don't think the money should go to the committers... yeah, we
do work on it for free but most of us do it because we _want_ to work on it,
not because it might someday pay some bills

i would vote for spending the money on infrastructure... a faster jira
server, a faster svn server, things like that...

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Steve Strong <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I think the idea is a great one, particularly the offer to match donations
> - very kind! I do have a couple of comments - firstly, whenever money gets
> involved, some people have a tendency to loose sight of reality and start
> seeing $$$ signs in front of their eyes.  Given that, I would suggest that
> we as a group define the rules for how this works prior to taking donations
> - that way, everyone (us and those donating) understand where the money is
> going and we don't end up in pointless arguments.  I suspect the levels of
> money won't be all that high, but you never can tell and knowing how it is
> to be distributed is important.  I think we need to answer questions like:
>
>    - Who is eligible for the money?  Any committer? Only "active"
>    committers?  What defines "active"?
>    - How is the money split? Do all committers (however that's defined)
>    get the same amount?  Is it split by number of commits?  Number of lines of
>    code changed?
>    - Who owns the bank account?  Who has visibility of it?  Is it
>    available for public viewing?
>    - Do we have any other needs for money other than just distributing it
>    amongst individuals?  Should we keep a pot for "NHibernate" activities, 
> such
>    as perhaps sponsoring the occasional conference?  Hell, if there's enough
>    cash we could even have an NHibernate stand! NHibernate T-Shirts & Mugs
>    anyone?!
>
> Secondly, I don't see why you shouldn't take a share of this Ayende - you
> have made many contributions to the project, and I see NHProf as something
> different.  Although your *knowledge* of NH helped you write it, there was
> nothing about being a committer that made it possible.  Anyone else *could*
> have written NHProf without being a committer if they'd had both the idea
> and the ambition to take it forward. NHProf will make its own money and has
> its own associated costs.  I don't really see the two (your commercial
> activity with NHProf and your altruistic activity with NH) are related.  If
> they are, then any one of us that undertakes commercial NH consultancy or
> writes or contributes to an NH book etc. would also have to come under the
> same rules.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> On 03/02/2010 17:23, Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
>  Guys,
>
> I am setting up a donation campaign for NHibernate. As part of that
> campaign, my company will donate 5,000$ for the project.
>
> Below is the text of the blog post that I intend to post. I would like to
> get your comments and any suggestions on how to make this better.
>
>
>  NHibernate is the most popular Open Source Object Relational Mapper in
> the .NET framework. As an Open Source project, all the work done on it is
> done for free.  We would like to be able to dedicate more time to
> NHibernate, but even as a labor of love, the amount of time that we can
> spend on a free project is limited.
>
> In order to facilitate that, we opened a donation 
> campaign<http://pledgie.com/campaigns/8615>that will allow you to donate 
> money to the project.
>
> [image: Click here to lend your support to: NHibernate and make a donation
> at www.pledgie.com !] <http://www.pledgie.com/campaigns/8615>
>
> *What is this money going to be used for?*
>
> This money will go directly to NHibernate committers, in order to sponsor
> the development of NHibernate itself.
>
> As one caveat of that, none of that money is going to go to me personally.
> As you are probably aware, I have my own commercial interest in NHibernate 
> (NHibernate
> Profiler <http://nhprof.com/>), so I don’t feel I should benefit from the
> donations.
>
> *Donation Matching*
>
> Moreover, my company, Hibernating Rhinos <http://hibernatingrhinos.com/>,
> is going to *match any donation *to this campaign (to a total limit of
> 5,000$), as a way to give back to the NHibernate project for the excellent
> software it produced.
>
> *Why should you donate?*
>
> If you are a user of NHibernate, you gained a lot from build on such a
> solid foundation. We ask to you to donate so that we can make the project
> even better. If your company uses NHibernate, ask it to donate to this
> campaign.
>
>

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