What was around one year of Sergej full time development ?
What was 3 man-moths (or even more) full time development donated by iMeta ?

2010/2/3 Ayende Rahien <[email protected]>

> Were there any donations
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Can we take the recent past and no so recent past, of NHibernate
>> "donations", as example of a possible funds management ?
>>
>> 2010/2/3 Davy Brion <[email protected]>
>>
>> personally, i don't think the money should go to the committers... yeah,
>>> we do work on it for free but most of us do it because we _want_ to work on
>>> it, not because it might someday pay some bills
>>>
>>> i would vote for spending the money on infrastructure... a faster jira
>>> server, a faster svn server, things like that...
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Steve Strong <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I think the idea is a great one, particularly the offer to match
>>>> donations - very kind! I do have a couple of comments - firstly, whenever
>>>> money gets involved, some people have a tendency to loose sight of reality
>>>> and start seeing $$$ signs in front of their eyes.  Given that, I would
>>>> suggest that we as a group define the rules for how this works prior to
>>>> taking donations - that way, everyone (us and those donating) understand
>>>> where the money is going and we don't end up in pointless arguments.  I
>>>> suspect the levels of money won't be all that high, but you never can tell
>>>> and knowing how it is to be distributed is important.  I think we need to
>>>> answer questions like:
>>>>
>>>>    - Who is eligible for the money?  Any committer? Only "active"
>>>>    committers?  What defines "active"?
>>>>    - How is the money split? Do all committers (however that's defined)
>>>>    get the same amount?  Is it split by number of commits?  Number of 
>>>> lines of
>>>>    code changed?
>>>>    - Who owns the bank account?  Who has visibility of it?  Is it
>>>>    available for public viewing?
>>>>    - Do we have any other needs for money other than just distributing
>>>>    it amongst individuals?  Should we keep a pot for "NHibernate" 
>>>> activities,
>>>>    such as perhaps sponsoring the occasional conference?  Hell, if there's
>>>>    enough cash we could even have an NHibernate stand! NHibernate T-Shirts 
>>>> &
>>>>    Mugs anyone?!
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, I don't see why you shouldn't take a share of this Ayende -
>>>> you have made many contributions to the project, and I see NHProf as
>>>> something different.  Although your *knowledge* of NH helped you write it,
>>>> there was nothing about being a committer that made it possible.  Anyone
>>>> else *could* have written NHProf without being a committer if they'd had
>>>> both the idea and the ambition to take it forward. NHProf will make its own
>>>> money and has its own associated costs.  I don't really see the two (your
>>>> commercial activity with NHProf and your altruistic activity with NH) are
>>>> related.  If they are, then any one of us that undertakes commercial NH
>>>> consultancy or writes or contributes to an NH book etc. would also have to
>>>> come under the same rules.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/02/2010 17:23, Ayende Rahien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I am setting up a donation campaign for NHibernate. As part of that
>>>> campaign, my company will donate 5,000$ for the project.
>>>>
>>>> Below is the text of the blog post that I intend to post. I would like
>>>> to get your comments and any suggestions on how to make this better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  NHibernate is the most popular Open Source Object Relational Mapper in
>>>> the .NET framework. As an Open Source project, all the work done on it is
>>>> done for free.  We would like to be able to dedicate more time to
>>>> NHibernate, but even as a labor of love, the amount of time that we can
>>>> spend on a free project is limited.
>>>>
>>>> In order to facilitate that, we opened a donation 
>>>> campaign<http://pledgie.com/campaigns/8615>that will allow you to donate 
>>>> money to the project.
>>>>
>>>> [image: Click here to lend your support to: NHibernate and make a
>>>> donation at www.pledgie.com !] <http://www.pledgie.com/campaigns/8615>
>>>>
>>>> *What is this money going to be used for?*
>>>>
>>>> This money will go directly to NHibernate committers, in order to
>>>> sponsor the development of NHibernate itself.
>>>>
>>>> As one caveat of that, none of that money is going to go to me
>>>> personally. As you are probably aware, I have my own commercial interest in
>>>> NHibernate (NHibernate Profiler <http://nhprof.com/>), so I don’t feel
>>>> I should benefit from the donations.
>>>>
>>>> *Donation Matching*
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, my company, Hibernating Rhinos<http://hibernatingrhinos.com/>,
>>>> is going to *match any donation *to this campaign (to a total limit of
>>>> 5,000$), as a way to give back to the NHibernate project for the excellent
>>>> software it produced.
>>>>
>>>> *Why should you donate?*
>>>>
>>>> If you are a user of NHibernate, you gained a lot from build on such a
>>>> solid foundation. We ask to you to donate so that we can make the project
>>>> even better. If your company uses NHibernate, ask it to donate to this
>>>> campaign.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fabio Maulo
>>
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