Fabio, IIRC, Sergej was hired by JBoss, then shortly after put to work on other things. iMeta's donation was of time, not money. That makes it easier to manage.
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote: > What was around one year of Sergej full time development ? > What was 3 man-moths (or even more) full time development donated by iMeta > ? > > 2010/2/3 Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> > > Were there any donations >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Can we take the recent past and no so recent past, of NHibernate >>> "donations", as example of a possible funds management ? >>> >>> 2010/2/3 Davy Brion <[email protected]> >>> >>> personally, i don't think the money should go to the committers... yeah, >>>> we do work on it for free but most of us do it because we _want_ to work on >>>> it, not because it might someday pay some bills >>>> >>>> i would vote for spending the money on infrastructure... a faster jira >>>> server, a faster svn server, things like that... >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Steve Strong <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think the idea is a great one, particularly the offer to match >>>>> donations - very kind! I do have a couple of comments - firstly, whenever >>>>> money gets involved, some people have a tendency to loose sight of reality >>>>> and start seeing $$$ signs in front of their eyes. Given that, I would >>>>> suggest that we as a group define the rules for how this works prior to >>>>> taking donations - that way, everyone (us and those donating) understand >>>>> where the money is going and we don't end up in pointless arguments. I >>>>> suspect the levels of money won't be all that high, but you never can tell >>>>> and knowing how it is to be distributed is important. I think we need to >>>>> answer questions like: >>>>> >>>>> - Who is eligible for the money? Any committer? Only "active" >>>>> committers? What defines "active"? >>>>> - How is the money split? Do all committers (however that's >>>>> defined) get the same amount? Is it split by number of commits? >>>>> Number of >>>>> lines of code changed? >>>>> - Who owns the bank account? Who has visibility of it? Is it >>>>> available for public viewing? >>>>> - Do we have any other needs for money other than just distributing >>>>> it amongst individuals? Should we keep a pot for "NHibernate" >>>>> activities, >>>>> such as perhaps sponsoring the occasional conference? Hell, if there's >>>>> enough cash we could even have an NHibernate stand! NHibernate >>>>> T-Shirts & >>>>> Mugs anyone?! >>>>> >>>>> Secondly, I don't see why you shouldn't take a share of this Ayende - >>>>> you have made many contributions to the project, and I see NHProf as >>>>> something different. Although your *knowledge* of NH helped you write it, >>>>> there was nothing about being a committer that made it possible. Anyone >>>>> else *could* have written NHProf without being a committer if they'd had >>>>> both the idea and the ambition to take it forward. NHProf will make its >>>>> own >>>>> money and has its own associated costs. I don't really see the two (your >>>>> commercial activity with NHProf and your altruistic activity with NH) are >>>>> related. If they are, then any one of us that undertakes commercial NH >>>>> consultancy or writes or contributes to an NH book etc. would also have to >>>>> come under the same rules. >>>>> >>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 03/02/2010 17:23, Ayende Rahien wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Guys, >>>>> >>>>> I am setting up a donation campaign for NHibernate. As part of that >>>>> campaign, my company will donate 5,000$ for the project. >>>>> >>>>> Below is the text of the blog post that I intend to post. I would like >>>>> to get your comments and any suggestions on how to make this better. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> NHibernate is the most popular Open Source Object Relational Mapper >>>>> in the .NET framework. As an Open Source project, all the work done on it >>>>> is >>>>> done for free. We would like to be able to dedicate more time to >>>>> NHibernate, but even as a labor of love, the amount of time that we can >>>>> spend on a free project is limited. >>>>> >>>>> In order to facilitate that, we opened a donation >>>>> campaign<http://pledgie.com/campaigns/8615>that will allow you to donate >>>>> money to the project. >>>>> >>>>> [image: Click here to lend your support to: NHibernate and make a >>>>> donation at www.pledgie.com !] <http://www.pledgie.com/campaigns/8615> >>>>> >>>>> *What is this money going to be used for?* >>>>> >>>>> This money will go directly to NHibernate committers, in order to >>>>> sponsor the development of NHibernate itself. >>>>> >>>>> As one caveat of that, none of that money is going to go to me >>>>> personally. As you are probably aware, I have my own commercial interest >>>>> in >>>>> NHibernate (NHibernate Profiler <http://nhprof.com/>), so I don’t feel >>>>> I should benefit from the donations. >>>>> >>>>> *Donation Matching* >>>>> >>>>> Moreover, my company, Hibernating Rhinos<http://hibernatingrhinos.com/>, >>>>> is going to *match any donation *to this campaign (to a total limit of >>>>> 5,000$), as a way to give back to the NHibernate project for the excellent >>>>> software it produced. >>>>> >>>>> *Why should you donate?* >>>>> >>>>> If you are a user of NHibernate, you gained a lot from build on such a >>>>> solid foundation. We ask to you to donate so that we can make the project >>>>> even better. If your company uses NHibernate, ask it to donate to this >>>>> campaign. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fabio Maulo >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Fabio Maulo > >
