Can we take the recent past and no so recent past, of NHibernate
"donations", as example of a possible funds management ?

2010/2/3 Davy Brion <[email protected]>

> personally, i don't think the money should go to the committers... yeah, we
> do work on it for free but most of us do it because we _want_ to work on it,
> not because it might someday pay some bills
>
> i would vote for spending the money on infrastructure... a faster jira
> server, a faster svn server, things like that...
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Steve Strong <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  I think the idea is a great one, particularly the offer to match
>> donations - very kind! I do have a couple of comments - firstly, whenever
>> money gets involved, some people have a tendency to loose sight of reality
>> and start seeing $$$ signs in front of their eyes.  Given that, I would
>> suggest that we as a group define the rules for how this works prior to
>> taking donations - that way, everyone (us and those donating) understand
>> where the money is going and we don't end up in pointless arguments.  I
>> suspect the levels of money won't be all that high, but you never can tell
>> and knowing how it is to be distributed is important.  I think we need to
>> answer questions like:
>>
>>    - Who is eligible for the money?  Any committer? Only "active"
>>    committers?  What defines "active"?
>>    - How is the money split? Do all committers (however that's defined)
>>    get the same amount?  Is it split by number of commits?  Number of lines 
>> of
>>    code changed?
>>    - Who owns the bank account?  Who has visibility of it?  Is it
>>    available for public viewing?
>>    - Do we have any other needs for money other than just distributing it
>>    amongst individuals?  Should we keep a pot for "NHibernate" activities, 
>> such
>>    as perhaps sponsoring the occasional conference?  Hell, if there's enough
>>    cash we could even have an NHibernate stand! NHibernate T-Shirts & Mugs
>>    anyone?!
>>
>> Secondly, I don't see why you shouldn't take a share of this Ayende - you
>> have made many contributions to the project, and I see NHProf as something
>> different.  Although your *knowledge* of NH helped you write it, there was
>> nothing about being a committer that made it possible.  Anyone else *could*
>> have written NHProf without being a committer if they'd had both the idea
>> and the ambition to take it forward. NHProf will make its own money and has
>> its own associated costs.  I don't really see the two (your commercial
>> activity with NHProf and your altruistic activity with NH) are related.  If
>> they are, then any one of us that undertakes commercial NH consultancy or
>> writes or contributes to an NH book etc. would also have to come under the
>> same rules.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/02/2010 17:23, Ayende Rahien wrote:
>>
>>  Guys,
>>
>> I am setting up a donation campaign for NHibernate. As part of that
>> campaign, my company will donate 5,000$ for the project.
>>
>> Below is the text of the blog post that I intend to post. I would like to
>> get your comments and any suggestions on how to make this better.
>>
>>
>>  NHibernate is the most popular Open Source Object Relational Mapper in
>> the .NET framework. As an Open Source project, all the work done on it is
>> done for free.  We would like to be able to dedicate more time to
>> NHibernate, but even as a labor of love, the amount of time that we can
>> spend on a free project is limited.
>>
>> In order to facilitate that, we opened a donation 
>> campaign<http://pledgie.com/campaigns/8615>that will allow you to donate 
>> money to the project.
>>
>> [image: Click here to lend your support to: NHibernate and make a donation
>> at www.pledgie.com !] <http://www.pledgie.com/campaigns/8615>
>>
>> *What is this money going to be used for?*
>>
>> This money will go directly to NHibernate committers, in order to sponsor
>> the development of NHibernate itself.
>>
>> As one caveat of that, none of that money is going to go to me personally.
>> As you are probably aware, I have my own commercial interest in NHibernate 
>> (NHibernate
>> Profiler <http://nhprof.com/>), so I don’t feel I should benefit from the
>> donations.
>>
>> *Donation Matching*
>>
>> Moreover, my company, Hibernating Rhinos <http://hibernatingrhinos.com/>,
>> is going to *match any donation *to this campaign (to a total limit of
>> 5,000$), as a way to give back to the NHibernate project for the excellent
>> software it produced.
>>
>> *Why should you donate?*
>>
>> If you are a user of NHibernate, you gained a lot from build on such a
>> solid foundation. We ask to you to donate so that we can make the project
>> even better. If your company uses NHibernate, ask it to donate to this
>> campaign.
>>
>>
>


-- 
Fabio Maulo

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