Davy, Infrastructure is easy. I can provide servers from my company. Time is more expensive, I think.
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Davy Brion <[email protected]> wrote: > personally, i don't think the money should go to the committers... yeah, we > do work on it for free but most of us do it because we _want_ to work on it, > not because it might someday pay some bills > > i would vote for spending the money on infrastructure... a faster jira > server, a faster svn server, things like that... > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Steve Strong <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think the idea is a great one, particularly the offer to match >> donations - very kind! I do have a couple of comments - firstly, whenever >> money gets involved, some people have a tendency to loose sight of reality >> and start seeing $$$ signs in front of their eyes. Given that, I would >> suggest that we as a group define the rules for how this works prior to >> taking donations - that way, everyone (us and those donating) understand >> where the money is going and we don't end up in pointless arguments. I >> suspect the levels of money won't be all that high, but you never can tell >> and knowing how it is to be distributed is important. I think we need to >> answer questions like: >> >> - Who is eligible for the money? Any committer? Only "active" >> committers? What defines "active"? >> - How is the money split? Do all committers (however that's defined) >> get the same amount? Is it split by number of commits? Number of lines >> of >> code changed? >> - Who owns the bank account? Who has visibility of it? Is it >> available for public viewing? >> - Do we have any other needs for money other than just distributing it >> amongst individuals? Should we keep a pot for "NHibernate" activities, >> such >> as perhaps sponsoring the occasional conference? Hell, if there's enough >> cash we could even have an NHibernate stand! NHibernate T-Shirts & Mugs >> anyone?! >> >> Secondly, I don't see why you shouldn't take a share of this Ayende - you >> have made many contributions to the project, and I see NHProf as something >> different. Although your *knowledge* of NH helped you write it, there was >> nothing about being a committer that made it possible. Anyone else *could* >> have written NHProf without being a committer if they'd had both the idea >> and the ambition to take it forward. NHProf will make its own money and has >> its own associated costs. I don't really see the two (your commercial >> activity with NHProf and your altruistic activity with NH) are related. If >> they are, then any one of us that undertakes commercial NH consultancy or >> writes or contributes to an NH book etc. would also have to come under the >> same rules. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> On 03/02/2010 17:23, Ayende Rahien wrote: >> >> Guys, >> >> I am setting up a donation campaign for NHibernate. As part of that >> campaign, my company will donate 5,000$ for the project. >> >> Below is the text of the blog post that I intend to post. I would like to >> get your comments and any suggestions on how to make this better. >> >> >> NHibernate is the most popular Open Source Object Relational Mapper in >> the .NET framework. As an Open Source project, all the work done on it is >> done for free. We would like to be able to dedicate more time to >> NHibernate, but even as a labor of love, the amount of time that we can >> spend on a free project is limited. >> >> In order to facilitate that, we opened a donation >> campaign<http://pledgie.com/campaigns/8615>that will allow you to donate >> money to the project. >> >> [image: Click here to lend your support to: NHibernate and make a donation >> at www.pledgie.com !] <http://www.pledgie.com/campaigns/8615> >> >> *What is this money going to be used for?* >> >> This money will go directly to NHibernate committers, in order to sponsor >> the development of NHibernate itself. >> >> As one caveat of that, none of that money is going to go to me personally. >> As you are probably aware, I have my own commercial interest in NHibernate >> (NHibernate >> Profiler <http://nhprof.com/>), so I don’t feel I should benefit from the >> donations. >> >> *Donation Matching* >> >> Moreover, my company, Hibernating Rhinos <http://hibernatingrhinos.com/>, >> is going to *match any donation *to this campaign (to a total limit of >> 5,000$), as a way to give back to the NHibernate project for the excellent >> software it produced. >> >> *Why should you donate?* >> >> If you are a user of NHibernate, you gained a lot from build on such a >> solid foundation. We ask to you to donate so that we can make the project >> even better. If your company uses NHibernate, ask it to donate to this >> campaign. >> >> >
