Would you believe - Falcons were worse???
________________________________ From: Gene Henry <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 12:28:28 PM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! I had an early Mustang. Got rid of it as the "unibody" slowly rusted away. The front frame members ended about midway back. I had a piece of masonite under the passenger floormat so your feet didn't drag! ----- Original Message ----- >From: stanley/ Randolph >To: [email protected] >Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:35 AM >Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! > > >Hey, Gene - did you know that the Mustang was built on the Falcon chassis? >That was what gave Ford car division a new lease on life. >And, remember the Sunbeam Alpine? Chrysler bought the company; wanting to >make it peppier against the competition, they added a Ford V8. It went >faster, of course, than the standard I-4; and, got better mileage. The >standard 5-year warranty applied to the I-4; the V-8 only had a 2-year >warranty. >I liked the Shelby - looks and power, but not the greatest handling... > > > > > > > ________________________________ From: Gene Henry <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 8:02:59 AM >Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! > > >Just after Ford "made" the Falcon, they were going to make a Duschen - >especially for those that got "Falconed" before! > >----- Original Message ----- >>From: stanley/ Randolph >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:18 AM >>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >> >> >>Yeah, but Kim, it's two words: no vas. >>They were thinking of a star when they named it, and my dear old dad traded >>in the '57 that he had promised to give me, for that piece of excrement! It >>was almost as much trouble as the Falcon he bought a couple of years earlier, >>which he traded a Nash Metropolitan for... >>I would have liked either the '57 or the Nash --- >>Preferably both. :) >> >>Stanley >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Kim Paddock <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 8:55:25 AM >>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >> >> >>Well, Chevy named one "Nova" which means "no go" in Spanish. Not a great hit >>with those south of the border... >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 5:40:00 PM >>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >> >>My mother-in-law drives one, I think about it every time she tries to >>pronounce it. >> >>-Kyle >>-Sent from Houston, TX, United States >> >> >>On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Why would the Japanese ever name a car Corolla ? >>>Think about that awhile. >>> >>>--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]> >>>>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >>>>To: [email protected] >>>>Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 7:35 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Well I'll stick with the Honda manuals with their mixed up L's and R's >>>>rather than Clymer with dead wrong wiring diagrams. >>>> >>>>-Kyle >>>>-Sent from Houston, TX, United States >>>> >>>> >>>>On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>My understanding is Clymer manuals will no longer be published. They all >>>>got jobs with the administration. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>>Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 7:01 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Mr Clymer will lie to you and not even feel guilty about it. >>>>>> >>>>>>-Kyle >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:46 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>Good Job! Hope everything else goes much smoother. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>(The photo is My Dad & I trying to solve a signal problem with the >>>>>>>incorrect Clymer schematic) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>My Mom says, "smile for the picture"! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Dec 31, 2009 05:20:44 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Crud! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>How do I attach a picture in a reply again (it doesn't seem so obvious >>>>>>>>- though i figured it out some months ago!!)? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Dec 31, 3:18 pm, oldschoolgwin wrote: >>>>>>>>> Houston is clapping – yikes that was a scary one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I ended up heating the fork tube with Mr. Propano and then cooling (in >>>>>>>>> theory – but effectiveness?) the top cap bolt with a can of compressed >>>>>>>>> office cleaner upside down (a good gusher). Then cranked on it with a >>>>>>>>> 3 ft breaker bar about as hard as I could and it moved. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It’s an ugly bolt now though! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IMG_3534-40%.JPG >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 7:46 am, stanley/ Randolph wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > I would use engine oil. It actually penetrates better. Takes a >>>>>>>>> > little longer but works better. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Stanley >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Kim Paddock wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > From: Kim Paddock >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >>>>>>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 1:59 PM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Hit it with a good penetrating oil and let it sit....that usually >>>>>>>>> > works for me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > From: Dennis Hammerl >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 11:23:57 PM >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > I don't have much of an answer for you. Don't know how much I've >>>>>>>>> > put on 'em but it's been enough that two guys had to hold the bike >>>>>>>>> > from spinning on the center stand. That's with my 2' bar and 3' >>>>>>>>> > tube combo. 5' X 150lb weakling = ? I wonder if it's cross threaded >>>>>>>>> > or just corroded on. If you got one off, you see that they are fine >>>>>>>>> > thread and have an O ring. i've heated some stuff like that (not a >>>>>>>>> > fork though) and then applied an ice cube to the cap to shrink it >>>>>>>>> > quickly. Could spray it with something cold too. Pulling on the >>>>>>>>> > socket while heating might do it. The socket would act as a heat >>>>>>>>> > sink and keep the cap cooler. If you can get another cap, you might >>>>>>>>> > have to crack off the top rim with a small chisel. (leave the hex) >>>>>>>>> > The rim is where the pressure is. Once off, unless cross threaded, >>>>>>>>> > it should back out easy. Good luck. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, oldschoolgwin wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > From: oldschoolgwin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >>>>>>>>> > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 12:42 AM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Thanks Dennnis. I managed to get a socket that grips it much better. >>>>>>>>> > In this case 27mm is the same as 1 1/16" (well actually 1 1/16' is >>>>>>>>> > just slightly smaller to my advantage). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > This socket grips it much better but i've put at least 100 lbs on it >>>>>>>>> > and it won't budge. The scary part is what will give first as i push >>>>>>>>> > harder - knowing the bolt head is not 100% to begin with - yikes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > I tried a propane torch and heated teh fork tube up to maybe >>>>>>>>> > 200-250F >>>>>>>>> > and applied the 100 ft-lbs - no luck. Not sure if this would work >>>>>>>>> > since the alumninum bolt expands faster than the steel fork tube. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Is there any other method too try before just increasing torque? How >>>>>>>>> > about an Impact gun - not sure if this would be effectitve on an >>>>>>>>> > aluminum hex head??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > On Dec 27, 8:17 pm, Dennis Hammerl wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Well, first off it isn't 1 1/16". It's metric. The proper size >>>>>>>>> > > 1/2" drive 6 point socket should do. I prefer the "flank-drive" >>>>>>>>> > > variety because they apply contact in the middle of the flats. My >>>>>>>>> > > personal choice is the Kowa brand (Japan). They have a rather >>>>>>>>> > > pronounced "flank-drive" I leave the tubes in the fork and only >>>>>>>>> > > loosen the top clamp. A 24" bar and a 3' tube gets most anything. >>>>>>>>> > > Sometimes you need someone to hold the bike. check with any Jap >>>>>>>>> > > bike dealers to see if any of their techs use Kowa sockets and >>>>>>>>> > > try to borrow one. The chisel is the last resort cause I have to >>>>>>>>> > > buy the replacement. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > --- On Sun, 12/27/09, oldschoolgwin wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > From: oldschoolgwin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >>>>>>>>> > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 9:36 PM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Hi All. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Well I'm installing new fork seals on my 83 650. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > The left fork tube cap is stuck and it appears it was a victim of >>>>>>>>> > > some >>>>>>>>> > > previous shade tree mechanic with a 1 size fits all wrench - >>>>>>>>> > > rounded >>>>>>>>> > > corners on that cap and not much left. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Any ideas on how to ge this off. A six point 1 1/16' socket >>>>>>>>> > > doesn't >>>>>>>>> > > want to grip it enough to break it loose. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > I guess if worse comes to worse i could drill two 1/4" through >>>>>>>>> > > holes >>>>>>>>> > > and make a pinned spanner to remove it - but that is just more >>>>>>>>> > > effort >>>>>>>>> > > than i like. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Anyone know any tricks? Chisel and hammer at the edge? Options are >>>>>>>>> > > looking so good! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> > > Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>>>>>>> > > To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > > For more options, visit this group >>>>>>>>> > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected].. >>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group >>>>>>>>> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > --You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> > Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group >>>>>>>>> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > --You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> > Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group >>>>>>>>> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hide >>>>>>>>> > quoted text - 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