Just after Ford "made" the Falcon, they were going to make a Duschen - 
especially for those that got "Falconed" before!

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: stanley/ Randolph 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko!


  Yeah, but Kim, it's two words: no vas.  
  They were thinking of a star when they named it, and my dear old dad traded 
in the '57 that he had promised to give  me, for that piece of excrement!  It 
was almost as much trouble as the Falcon he bought a couple of years earlier, 
which he traded a Nash Metropolitan  for...
  I would have liked either the '57 or the Nash ---
  Preferably both.  :)
   
  Stanley





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  From: Kim Paddock <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 8:55:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko!


  Well, Chevy named one "Nova" which means "no go" in Spanish. Not a great hit 
with those south of the border...




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  From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 5:40:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko!

  My mother-in-law drives one, I think about it every time she tries to 
pronounce it.

  -Kyle 
  -Sent from Houston, TX, United States 


  On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:

          Why would the Japanese ever name a car Corolla ? 
          Think about that awhile. 

          --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:


            From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
            Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko!
            To: [email protected]

            Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 7:35 PM 



            Well I'll stick with the Honda manuals with their mixed up L's and 
R's rather than Clymer with dead wrong wiring diagrams.

            -Kyle 
            -Sent from Houston, TX, United States 


            On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Dennis Hammerl 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    My understanding is Clymer manuals will no longer be 
published. They all got jobs with the administration. 


                    --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:


                      From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>

                      Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el 
stucko!
                      To: [email protected]

                      Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 7:01 PM


                      Mr Clymer will lie to you and not even feel guilty about 
it.

                      -Kyle 



                      On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:46 PM, <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                        Good Job! Hope everything else goes much smoother.

                        (The photo is My Dad & I trying to solve a signal 
problem with the incorrect Clymer schematic) 

                        My Mom says, "smile for the picture"! 


                        Dec 31, 2009 05:20:44 PM, 
[email protected] wrote:

                          Crud!

                          How do I attach a picture in a reply again (it 
doesn't seem so obvious
                          - though i figured it out some months ago!!)?


                          On Dec 31, 3:18 pm, oldschoolgwin wrote:
                          > Houston is clapping – yikes that was a scary one.
                          >
                          > I ended up heating the fork tube with Mr. Propano 
and then cooling (in
                          > theory – but effectiveness?) the top cap bolt with 
a can of compressed
                          > office cleaner upside down (a good gusher). Then 
cranked on it with a
                          > 3 ft breaker bar about as hard as I could and it 
moved.
                          >
                          > It’s an ugly bolt now though!
                          >
                          > IMG_3534-40%.JPG
                          >

                          > On Dec 31, 7:46 am, stanley/ Randolph wrote:
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > > I would use engine oil. It actually penetrates 
better. Takes a little longer but works better.
                          >
                          > > Stanley
                          >

                          > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Kim Paddock wrote:
                          >
                          > > From: Kim Paddock 

                          > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap 
is - el stucko!
                          > > To: [email protected]
                          > > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 1:59 PM
                          >
                          > > Hit it with a good penetrating oil and let it 
sit....that usually works for me.
                          >
                          > > From: Dennis Hammerl 

                          > > To: [email protected]
                          > > Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 11:23:57 PM
                          > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap 
is - el stucko!
                          >
                          > > I don't have much of an answer for you. Don't 
know how much I've put on 'em but it's been enough that two guys had to hold 
the bike from spinning on the center stand. That's with my 2' bar and 3' tube 
combo. 5' X 150lb weakling = ? I wonder if it's cross threaded or just corroded 
on. If you got one off, you see that they are fine thread and have an O ring. 
i've heated some stuff like that (not a fork though) and then applied an ice 
cube to the cap to shrink it quickly. Could spray it with something cold too. 
Pulling on the socket while heating might do it. The socket would act as a heat 
sink and keep the cap cooler. If you can get another cap, you might have to 
crack off the top rim with a small chisel. (leave the hex) The rim is where the 
pressure is. Once off, unless cross threaded, it should back out easy. Good 
luck.
                          >

                          > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, oldschoolgwin wrote:
                          >
                          > > From: oldschoolgwin 

                          > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is 
- el stucko!
                          > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 

                          > > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 12:42 AM
                          >
                          > > Thanks Dennnis. I managed to get a socket that 
grips it much better.
                          > > In this case 27mm is the same as 1 1/16" (well 
actually 1 1/16' is
                          > > just slightly smaller to my advantage).
                          >
                          > > This socket grips it much better but i've put at 
least 100 lbs on it
                          > > and it won't budge. The scary part is what will 
give first as i push
                          > > harder - knowing the bolt head is not 100% to 
begin with - yikes.
                          >
                          > > I tried a propane torch and heated teh fork tube 
up to maybe 200-250F
                          > > and applied the 100 ft-lbs - no luck. Not sure if 
this would work
                          > > since the alumninum bolt expands faster than the 
steel fork tube.
                          >
                          > > Is there any other method too try before just 
increasing torque? How
                          > > about an Impact gun - not sure if this would be 
effectitve on an
                          > > aluminum hex head???
                          >

                          > > On Dec 27, 8:17 pm, Dennis Hammerl wrote:
                          >
                          > > > Well, first off it isn't 1 1/16". It's metric. 
The proper size 1/2" drive 6 point socket should do. I prefer the "flank-drive" 
variety because they apply contact in the middle of the flats. My personal 
choice is the Kowa brand (Japan). They have a rather pronounced "flank-drive" I 
leave the tubes in the fork and only loosen the top clamp. A 24" bar and a 3' 
tube gets most anything. Sometimes you need someone to hold the bike. check 
with any Jap bike dealers to see if any of their techs use Kowa sockets and try 
to borrow one. The chisel is the last resort cause I have to buy the 
replacement.
                          >

                          > > > --- On Sun, 12/27/09, oldschoolgwin wrote:
                          >
                          > > > From: oldschoolgwin 

                          > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fork tube cap is - 
el stucko!
                          > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 

                          > > > Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 9:36 PM
                          >
                          > > > Hi All.
                          >
                          > > > Well I'm installing new fork seals on my 83 650.
                          >
                          > > > The left fork tube cap is stuck and it appears 
it was a victim of some
                          > > > previous shade tree mechanic with a 1 size fits 
all wrench - rounded
                          > > > corners on that cap and not much left.
                          >
                          > > > Any ideas on how to ge this off. A six point 1 
1/16' socket doesn't
                          > > > want to grip it enough to break it loose.
                          >
                          > > > I guess if worse comes to worse i could drill 
two 1/4" through holes
                          > > > and make a pinned spanner to remove it - but 
that is just more effort
                          > > > than i like.
                          >
                          > > > Anyone know any tricks? Chisel and hammer at 
the edge? Options are
                          > > > looking so good!
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