Can't say that about the trucks. Now, the cars are much improved, as well. That's the reason Ford didn't need a BAILOUT??? Every Chrysler product I've owned or worked on had serious defects, some as basic as poor engineering. Now that I'm older and not as inclined to be out in the cold or rain working on them, I won't own a Chrysler or GM product. I mostly owned VWs anyway, until I bought a Subaru and discovered that it is simpler and yet more complicated and more reliable than a VW, and has the same handling and more performance without hopping up the engine... That's why I stuck a Subaru engine in a VW van for a friend years before I bought an actual Subaru car. Subaru also is one of the few auto companies whose sales were still positive even during the last big crunch. BTW - ever seen a VW trike? This guy I don't know made one and had to attach two big slabs of iron in the front of the engine to mostly keep it from doing wheelstands - even in 2d gear... Guess it was cheaper than wheelie bars?
Stanley ________________________________ From: Kim Paddock <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 6:56:56 PM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! ..a Ford is a Ford is a Ford. They're all crap. ________________________________ From: stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 12:08:23 PM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! Would you believe - Falcons were worse??? ________________________________ From: Gene Henry <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 12:28:28 PM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! I had an early Mustang. Got rid of it as the "unibody" slowly rusted away. The front frame members ended about midway back. I had a piece of masonite under the passenger floormat so your feet didn't drag! ----- Original Message ----- >From: stanley/ Randolph >To: [email protected] >Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:35 AM >Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! > > >Hey, Gene - did you know that the Mustang was built on the Falcon chassis? >That was what gave Ford car division a new lease on life. >And, remember the Sunbeam Alpine? Chrysler bought the company; wanting to >make it peppier against the competition, they added a Ford V8. It went >faster, of course, than the standard I-4; and, got better mileage. The >standard 5-year warranty applied to the I-4; the V-8 only had a 2-year >warranty. >I liked the Shelby - looks and power, but not the greatest handling... > > > > > > > ________________________________ From: Gene Henry <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 8:02:59 AM >Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! > > >Just after Ford "made" the Falcon, they were going to make a Duschen - >especially for those that got "Falconed" before! > >----- Original Message ----- >>From: stanley/ Randolph >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:18 AM >>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >> >> >>Yeah, but Kim, it's two words: no vas. >>They were thinking of a star when they named it, and my dear old dad traded >>in the '57 that he had promised to give me, for that piece of excrement! It >>was almost as much trouble as the Falcon he bought a couple of years earlier, >>which he traded a Nash Metropolitan for... >>I would have liked either the '57 or the Nash --- >>Preferably both. :) >> >>Stanley >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Kim Paddock <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 8:55:25 AM >>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >> >> >>Well, Chevy named one "Nova" which means "no go" in Spanish. Not a great hit >>with those south of the border... >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 5:40:00 PM >>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >> >>My mother-in-law drives one, I think about it every time she tries to >>pronounce it. >> >>-Kyle >>-Sent from Houston, TX, United States >> >> >>On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Why would the Japanese ever name a car Corolla ? >>>Think about that awhile. >>> >>>--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]> >>>>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >>>>To: [email protected] >>>>Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 7:35 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Well I'll stick with the Honda manuals with their mixed up L's and R's >>>>rather than Clymer with dead wrong wiring diagrams. >>>> >>>>-Kyle >>>>-Sent from Houston, TX, United States >>>> >>>> >>>>On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>My understanding is Clymer manuals will no longer be published. They all >>>>got jobs with the administration. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>>Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 7:01 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Mr Clymer will lie to you and not even feel guilty about it. >>>>>> >>>>>>-Kyle >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:46 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>Good Job! Hope everything else goes much smoother. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>(The photo is My Dad & I trying to solve a signal problem with the >>>>>>>incorrect Clymer schematic) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>My Mom says, "smile for the picture"! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Dec 31, 2009 05:20:44 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Crud! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>How do I attach a picture in a reply again (it doesn't seem so obvious >>>>>>>>- though i figured it out some months ago!!)? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Dec 31, 3:18 pm, oldschoolgwin wrote: >>>>>>>>> Houston is clapping – yikes that was a scary one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I ended up heating the fork tube with Mr. Propano and then cooling (in >>>>>>>>> theory – but effectiveness?) the top cap bolt with a can of compressed >>>>>>>>> office cleaner upside down (a good gusher). Then cranked on it with a >>>>>>>>> 3 ft breaker bar about as hard as I could and it moved. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It’s an ugly bolt now though! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IMG_3534-40%.JPG >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 7:46 am, stanley/ Randolph wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > I would use engine oil. It actually penetrates better. Takes a >>>>>>>>> > little longer but works better. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Stanley >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Kim Paddock wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > From: Kim Paddock >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >>>>>>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 1:59 PM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Hit it with a good penetrating oil and let it sit....that usually >>>>>>>>> > works for me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > From: Dennis Hammerl >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 11:23:57 PM >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > I don't have much of an answer for you. Don't know how much I've >>>>>>>>> > put on 'em but it's been enough that two guys had to hold the bike >>>>>>>>> > from spinning on the center stand. That's with my 2' bar and 3' >>>>>>>>> > tube combo. 5' X 150lb weakling = ? I wonder if it's cross threaded >>>>>>>>> > or just corroded on. If you got one off, you see that they are fine >>>>>>>>> > thread and have an O ring. i've heated some stuff like that (not a >>>>>>>>> > fork though) and then applied an ice cube to the cap to shrink it >>>>>>>>> > quickly. Could spray it with something cold too. Pulling on the >>>>>>>>> > socket while heating might do it. The socket would act as a heat >>>>>>>>> > sink and keep the cap cooler. If you can get another cap, you might >>>>>>>>> > have to crack off the top rim with a small chisel. (leave the hex) >>>>>>>>> > The rim is where the pressure is. Once off, unless cross threaded, >>>>>>>>> > it should back out easy. Good luck. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, oldschoolgwin wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > From: oldschoolgwin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >>>>>>>>> > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 12:42 AM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Thanks Dennnis. I managed to get a socket that grips it much better. >>>>>>>>> > In this case 27mm is the same as 1 1/16" (well actually 1 1/16' is >>>>>>>>> > just slightly smaller to my advantage). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > This socket grips it much better but i've put at least 100 lbs on it >>>>>>>>> > and it won't budge. The scary part is what will give first as i push >>>>>>>>> > harder - knowing the bolt head is not 100% to begin with - yikes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > I tried a propane torch and heated teh fork tube up to maybe >>>>>>>>> > 200-250F >>>>>>>>> > and applied the 100 ft-lbs - no luck. Not sure if this would work >>>>>>>>> > since the alumninum bolt expands faster than the steel fork tube. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Is there any other method too try before just increasing torque? How >>>>>>>>> > about an Impact gun - not sure if this would be effectitve on an >>>>>>>>> > aluminum hex head??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > On Dec 27, 8:17 pm, Dennis Hammerl wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Well, first off it isn't 1 1/16". It's metric. The proper size >>>>>>>>> > > 1/2" drive 6 point socket should do. I prefer the "flank-drive" >>>>>>>>> > > variety because they apply contact in the middle of the flats. My >>>>>>>>> > > personal choice is the Kowa brand (Japan). They have a rather >>>>>>>>> > > pronounced "flank-drive" I leave the tubes in the fork and only >>>>>>>>> > > loosen the top clamp. A 24" bar and a 3' tube gets most anything. >>>>>>>>> > > Sometimes you need someone to hold the bike. check with any Jap >>>>>>>>> > > bike dealers to see if any of their techs use Kowa sockets and >>>>>>>>> > > try to borrow one. The chisel is the last resort cause I have to >>>>>>>>> > > buy the replacement. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > --- On Sun, 12/27/09, oldschoolgwin wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > From: oldschoolgwin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fork tube cap is - el stucko! >>>>>>>>> > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 9:36 PM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Hi All. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Well I'm installing new fork seals on my 83 650. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > The left fork tube cap is stuck and it appears it was a victim of >>>>>>>>> > > some >>>>>>>>> > > previous shade tree mechanic with a 1 size fits all wrench - >>>>>>>>> > > rounded >>>>>>>>> > > corners on that cap and not much left. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Any ideas on how to ge this off. A six point 1 1/16' socket >>>>>>>>> > > doesn't >>>>>>>>> > > want to grip it enough to break it loose. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > I guess if worse comes to worse i could drill two 1/4" through >>>>>>>>> > > holes >>>>>>>>> > > and make a pinned spanner to remove it - but that is just more >>>>>>>>> > > effort >>>>>>>>> > > than i like. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Anyone know any tricks? Chisel and hammer at the edge? Options are >>>>>>>>> > > looking so good! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> > > Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>>>>>>> > > To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > > For more options, visit this group >>>>>>>>> > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected].. >>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group >>>>>>>>> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > --You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> > Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group >>>>>>>>> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > --You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> > Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > [email protected].. >>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group >>>>>>>>> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hide >>>>>>>>> > quoted text - 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