But if I am walking, lubricating, walking again, how I am going to shoot the video? don't you see I am lonely boy? Graha, thanks for the info.
J. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: > Javier, rear wheel axle nut should be at 65 lbf-ft > Graham > > On May 19, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: > > Ok Graham, I just order a new center stand for my NH. So, seat tight and > wait for all the questions I am going to ask about how to install the thing > when arrives. No more walking around to clean/lubricate the chain. > Javier. > > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]>wrote: > >> No Graham, this is different. I am almost sure the sound is related with >> the chain. To give you an idea, it is similar to the sound made when you >> are changing gears on a mountain bike. Initially I thought it could be that >> the chain got too loose after the trip back home. As I said, just to tried >> to adjusted it leaving almost no slack, and the sound got worse! Conversely, >> loosing the chain back minimizes the problem. >> >> Now, the rear brake issue is also different to what you saw. When I said >> that it was stuck, I am actually talking about the shaft. In fact, I took >> the rod, spring and all that off. So with my hand I moved the shaft to apply >> the brake. Doing just that the brake will get stuck, and I would need to >> pull firmly back to disengage, like if the pads where sticky inside the >> drum. This problem was _solved_ when I loosed up a bit the axle nut. Now it >> seems to be working perfectly. So I assume it was that, too much torque >> applied on the axle nut. Question is, how much torque _must_ be applied? I >> don't want the rear wheel to come lose while driving on the highway ;). >> >> As I said, more puzzling is the fact that loosing the axle nut seems to >> help with the chain noise. It is almost gone, although I need to drive a bit >> longer to confirm that. >> >> Graham, could you check on your little book for the 750 if it has >> information about the torque needed on the rear axle nut? >> >> Javier. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Javier, is it the same sound we heard when we would apply the brake and >>> the spring didn't return the brake to it's free position? >>> >>> On May 19, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Javier Garcia wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I understand why it can be too tight, nor too loose. I am just >>> wondering if there is a more precise way to set the chain slack, instead >>> just -somewhere between the two extremes-. Perhaps it doesn't matter, but I >>> am worried about the cracking sound. >>> >>> Javier. >>> >>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:37 AM, David Cummings < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> about #5 - on any bike with rear suspension, you need more chain slack >>>> than you would think (like say on a bicycle). This is because the >>>> effective chainstay length changes as you compress the shocks. If you >>>> got it fairly tight without any weight on the seat, it's probably too >>>> tight when you are sitting on it, much more so if you go over a bump >>>> with the rear. >>>> Of course, this is all from working with friends' bikes, my 700s >>>> doesn't have this issue :-) >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:05 AM, paul annen <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > the only answer i have is to #4... it is called a torque wrench.... >>>> and #5 >>>> > alot of people use there pocket change to measure ther chain slack... >>>> damn >>>> > im glad my GL is shaft drive... >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi all, >>>> >> >>>> >> I have a couple of questions concerning the chain and rear brake of a >>>> 96 >>>> >> NH 750. When I visited Graham last week we adjusted the chain (among >>>> other >>>> >> things), since it was quite loose. Once I got back home I start >>>> hearing some >>>> >> kind of clocking noise when I start from a stop. It appears to be >>>> related to >>>> >> the chain somehow. It is difficult to describe, but once the bike >>>> start >>>> >> moving I can hear some "crank, crank, crank" few times and then goes >>>> away >>>> >> when I increase the speed. I cannot tell if still makes that sound >>>> when >>>> >> moving faster. Last night I though maybe the chain need to be >>>> readjusted or >>>> >> something (although I never experienced this when the chain was too >>>> loose). >>>> >> This time I tensioned the chain a bit more, leaving just a little >>>> slack >>>> >> (perhaps was even too tight). The noise then got worse, I could hear >>>> the >>>> >> same thing just at the instant that the wells start moving. Then I >>>> loose the >>>> >> chain again, and came back to the original point where I was, with >>>> the same >>>> >> noise. >>>> >> Since I moved the wheel back and forth, I had to adjust the rear >>>> brake as >>>> >> well. The I noticed that it was getting stuck after applying it. I >>>> mean, I >>>> >> push the leaver, it comes back, but the brake is still stuck. I had >>>> to move >>>> >> it with my hand to disengage. I went to the Common Service Manual to >>>> check >>>> >> what I was doing wrong, and then I saw in the section about chain >>>> adjustment >>>> >> "After adjustment, retighten the axle nut to the specified torque" >>>> (pag 46). >>>> >> I remember I had tighten the nut really hard. So I loose it up a >>>> little bit, >>>> >> and then voila!, the brake is working fine again. I drove it today, >>>> and >>>> >> actually the noise had been reduced as well, although I still hear an >>>> small >>>> >> crank when starting from stop. >>>> >> >>>> >> Questions: >>>> >> >>>> >> 1) Does any of this makes sense? >>>> >> >>>> >> 2) Could the noise be related to the torque applied on the axle nut >>>> >> instead of the chain tension? >>>> >> >>>> >> 3) How do I know what is the right torque for this bike? >>>> >> >>>> >> 4) Is there a tool that indicates which torque is being applied to >>>> the >>>> >> nut? >>>> >> >>>> >> 5) How much slack should the chain have? is there any consistent way >>>> to >>>> >> measure it? >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks in advance, >>>> >> Javier. >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>> >> To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> >> [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> > [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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