----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan S. Dancey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> If I gave you the d20 stats for Chewbacca from the Star Wars RPG, but
> didn't give you a physical description other than something like "has
> long pointy teeth", and you gave me back a picture of a wookie, I'd say
> your picture was an infringement on Lucas' copyright.  And I suspect the
> courts would agree with me (especially if you called it a "wookie".)

On the other hand, if "Wookie" was given a D20-srd like reference, you'd had
more trouble claiming a furry humanoid named a wookie was infringing. It
won't be SRD-ized, but let's keep the examples similar.

> If I give you the d20 stats for a mind-flayer, but don't give you a
> physical description other than "has four tentacles around its mouth",
> and you give me back a picture of a mind-flayer, I'd say your picture
> was an infringement on WotC's copyright.  And, again, I suspect the
> courts would agree with me (especially if you called it an "illithid".)

But other data, like the advancment method, does point at humanoid as a
valid inference from the monster entry. Illithid is definitely infringing, a
humanoid octopus-critter? Not likely, not with that entry.

> You're in an especially bad situation with regard to your image of
> Mind-Flayers, because d20 has a >defined term< meaning "generally
> human-like in appearance" (Humanoid) and a >defined term< meaning alien
> or monsterous in appearance (Abberation).  As the game is strongly
> typed, you'd have a tough time making the argument that an Aberration
> should look like a Humanoid (or vice versa) >without< drawing on a 3rd
> party reference.

You would?

What about lycanthropers? (type shapechanger)
What about D&D's "angels" by another name? (type outsider)
What about golems? (type construct)

Without even trying, I've just come up with three humanoid-form critters in
D&D that aren't type humanoid. It's not strongly typed, humanoid and animal
types get overridden by the very mechanics of the game at several turns.

>You'd be subjected to the "reasonable person" test:
> Would a "reasonable person" spontaneously generate an image of an
> aberration with tentacles around its mouth that looked like an
> octopus-headed human, or would a "reasonable person" spontaneously
> generate some other image?

A "reasonable person" would assume that a creature that advances by
character type is similar to a humanoid, yes, since there's no exceptions.

Why'd you folks SRD this if you weren't planning on reasonable use?


> Oh, and we're all friends here.  Please call me Ryan.

Sure.


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