btw i think we can close this discussion, See you on the jougoulou
Le lun. 18 mars 2019 à 13:02, Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> a écrit : > Yeah linas i'm gonna create it ! I'm training on ML & DL at the moment ! > you have to try the C api of Tensorflow > > > Le dim. 17 mars 2019 à 17:28, Linas Vepstas <[email protected]> a > écrit : > >> Sure. But you'd also have to implement a reflexion system. -- linas >> >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 2:07 AM Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Linas >>> >>> Tx for ur feedback. I approved it ! >>> >>> btw i've discussed with a friend of mine that is geneticist about the >>> role played by our hormones systèmes. Should we implement a Thyroid system >>> into the reflexion system (LIKE -> Hypophis -> Thyroid -> Hypothalamus -> >>> Exploration -> STATE -> Exploitation) to the project to improve the human >>> like side ? >>> >>> I'll biceps >>> >>> >>> Le dim. 17 mars 2019 à 03:20, Linas Vepstas <[email protected]> a >>> écrit : >>> >>>> Thanks Sarah! >>>> >>>> The generation of ideas, and the representation of them as bits&bytes, >>>> and the curation of them (rejecting bad ideas) is one of the central tasks >>>> of AGI. >>>> >>>> -- All the truisms you can say about ideas are .. true. Yes, they are >>>> a dime-a-dozen. Yes, sometimes they are really hard to stumble across. 1% >>>> inspiration, 99% perspiration. Yes, sometimes the best ideas are right >>>> under your nose, where you don't even notice them. It can take decades to >>>> get one good idea. >>>> >>>> -- Telling apart good ideas from bad ones can be really hard. Depends >>>> on how much feedback you get from nature. In engineering, bad ideas result >>>> in bridges that fall down and ships that sink. Feedback is pretty direct >>>> and punishing. In human biomedical research, feedback is poor: you get >>>> studies that have a 5% effect with p<0.05 for 48 subjects in 11 weeks. >>>> That's a lot of work for questionable, mediocre results. In >>>> macroeconomics/politics, there's almost no feedback. Should we spend less? >>>> spend more? run a deficit? tighten our belts? regulate banks? trade? >>>> deregulate banks, trade? Join the EU? Leave the EU? Its almost total >>>> chaos, and darned little science. And then there's the "global brain" -- >>>> i.e. the sum-total of facebook posts -- and the "ideas" it thinks about -- >>>> it is hallucinating flat-earth and anti-vaxx and moon-landing denial. The >>>> global brain is filled to the brim with new and exciting ideas, and a large >>>> fraction of those are insane. Some ideas are openly hostile to sanity: >>>> QAnon is designed to trigger and reinforce mental illness. And it's >>>> effective; it works. (Innoculate now.) You really should think of the >>>> global-brain as proto-AGI, and then realize that proto-AGI will >>>> hallucinate. And it risks taking the human race down with it. >>>> >>>> -- Capitalism. There's good, and there's bad. The good: buy something >>>> on Amazon, it arrives on your doorstep, and the incredibly vast complexity >>>> of generating that product is hidden behind a simple GUI. It's great! As >>>> an intelligence, its nice to not deal with the mundane, and devote >>>> time/energy to "what really matters", to work without friction and >>>> impediment. Capitalism/money offers this. The bad: Capitalism cannot tell >>>> the difference between beneficial behavior, and destructive behavior. >>>> What's the difference between an open-source coder, a musician, and a meth >>>> addict (vodka-drunk, for you eastern europeans)? Answer: None, as far as >>>> capitalism is concerned. All three use modest amounts of cash to buy just >>>> enough capitalist goods to survive. De facto, we have no effective system >>>> for telling these three classes apart, and supporting the ones that we >>>> want. De facto, there's no coherent path forward from here, where we are, >>>> to a post-capitalist, woofie-based economy. >>>> >>>> -- Machine learning. A "good idea" is not the same thing as a "true >>>> idea that is not valuable". For example, algorithmic proof assistants can >>>> generate thousands of mathematical theorems in minutes, most of which are >>>> stunningly boring to humans. They may be true, but .. useless. Like >>>> spending all day doing deep fractal zooms... after a while, you realize >>>> that you've seen more-or-less the same thing over and over, even though >>>> they are each technically slightly different. Only a few are truly unique >>>> and worth noticing. This problem of "all almost alike" plagues all aspects >>>> of machine learning: there's combinatoric explosions, most of which are .. >>>> boring. And we have no effective theory for taming them (aside from "lucky >>>> insights" like back-propagation, if you are lucky enough to spot a network >>>> structure and map back-propagation onto it.) >>>> >>>> Linas. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 1:09 PM Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah pretty false, most of great ideas are shared by different >>>>> creators in the time. Look at our history, many concepts were created >>>>> multiple times at different location. Because we got "collective >>>>> intelligence" and ideas are shared by mans, you can't say that one idea is >>>>> yours, because it is the global knowledge of the entire humanity that put >>>>> you there. >>>>> >>>>> Ideas litteraly fall from the sky. And many scientist can tell you >>>>> they discover something trying to do another things. That's life shit >>>>> happened, and good things thu. >>>>> >>>>> Btw i'm not a girl. I'm a cyborg. >>>>> >>>>> Everything is okey, but we can elevate the discussion above the "fok >>>>> communism bureaucracy" thing. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 18:54, Ivan V. <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> Sarah Connorh, >>>>>> >>>>>> I know you are a girl and therefore super-smart regarding to boys, >>>>>> but forgive me to be that much direct. >>>>>> >>>>>> It happens that I suspect how ideas and visions are born. There is >>>>>> some unwritten Universe rule that says that there is no white without >>>>>> black, no music without a noise, no smile without a tear, no birth >>>>>> without >>>>>> a death, and as everything else, no good idea without a junk mess. Ideas >>>>>> don't just fall from the sky. Someone somewhere did a freaking mess for >>>>>> someone else to get a freaking good idea (could be the same person, but >>>>>> not >>>>>> necessarily). I'm of opinion that that someone who suffered to conceive >>>>>> an >>>>>> idea is in complete ownership of the same, and should be consulted before >>>>>> using it. >>>>>> >>>>>> But that's not how humans behave. We use what we can to get the >>>>>> things we want. Bureaucracy tries to protect sides from exploiting, but >>>>>> the >>>>>> Universe is the one that levels everything afterwards (or beforewards). >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope this makes sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> In a hope that everything is OK, >>>>>> Ivan V. >>>>>> >>>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 18:00 Ivan V. <[email protected]> napisao je: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That's human burocracy mumbojumbo i don't believe in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If someone has dragged their soul through hell to produce an idea, >>>>>>> is it fair to be reluctant to use that idea without permission? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:54 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> >>>>>>> napisao je: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But you can't protect it. An idea belong to the humanity and can't >>>>>>>> be copyrighted, only technical processes (linked to this idea) can be. >>>>>>>> (And >>>>>>>> even that, i don't share. I'm for open source in every fields, not >>>>>>>> only IT, >>>>>>>> but i respect the choice of some people to get money for their work) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 17:51, Ivan V. <[email protected]> a >>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some ideas are result of a hard work. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:01 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> napisao je: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PLUS : You gotta to know something. An IDEA CAN'T be protected, >>>>>>>>>> only a process. You can't protect the idea of "creating a Emotionnal >>>>>>>>>> AI" >>>>>>>>>> but you can protect your source code. >>>>>>>>>> Your IDEA is NOT protectable. You have to know HOW to do it and >>>>>>>>>> protect the WAY you do it. :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> cheers ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le jeu. 14 mars 2019 à 16:25, JRTA <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Funny thing is I do have a brand new idea but im not interested >>>>>>>>>>> in getting rich. It'ts probably stupid but I still wouldn't talk >>>>>>>>>>> about it >>>>>>>>>>> with out protecting it. >>>>>>>>>>> .. >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 9:21:45 AM UTC-5, Sarah Connorh >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> JRTA : Sorry but we saw people like you everyday that have the >>>>>>>>>>>> brand new IDEA that will make them rich. And seriously, don't do >>>>>>>>>>>> ever again >>>>>>>>>>>> the "come sign a contract" people will laugh the fuck out of you >>>>>>>>>>>> you don't >>>>>>>>>>>> even imagine. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Firstval a pathfinder isn't even an IA is just one of the >>>>>>>>>>>> basics concepts you have to understand before wanting to do a real >>>>>>>>>>>> IA. you >>>>>>>>>>>> can find more on : >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.w3resource.com/c-programming-exercises/ >>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd : If you are looking for a teacher this is the wrong place >>>>>>>>>>>> you should go on Teachers platform. >>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd : If you have so much money or so good idea don't ask >>>>>>>>>>>> people to sign contract or stuff like that. Prove yourself before >>>>>>>>>>>> trying to >>>>>>>>>>>> get people tested. >>>>>>>>>>>> 4rd : La charue avant les boeufs is a french expression. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you need help i can provide you some advice in private >>>>>>>>>>>> message but i'm not a teacher i'm Engineer. (P.S i'm VERY >>>>>>>>>>>> expensive :p ) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be back. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le mer. 13 mars 2019 à 20:54, JRTA <[email protected]> a >>>>>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will say, also, that it does seem like I am in the wrong >>>>>>>>>>>>> place. Despite that fact I have picked up some great info from >>>>>>>>>>>>> people that >>>>>>>>>>>>> have been very patient and helpful to a total noob. I am really >>>>>>>>>>>>> grateful >>>>>>>>>>>>> for the help I have received in pointing me in the right >>>>>>>>>>>>> direction in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> field that is quite the rabbit hole. There are definitely other >>>>>>>>>>>>> ways to >>>>>>>>>>>>> find the people I am looking for. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 8:50:33 AM UTC-5, Sarah >>>>>>>>>>>>> Connorh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, could you stop marijuana ? :D >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstval : opencog, even if i love you guys, that's a crap. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The AGI isn't close to be finished. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd : You can't pay someone to teach you everything, you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to work too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd : Facial recognition voice recognition etc, are you even >>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to do a pathfinder bro ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't put "la charue avant les roues" bro ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 12 mars 2019 à 20:03, JRTA <[email protected]> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the response Curtis. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to stretch the definition of a mentor here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considerably. Below is the start of what I hope to accomplish, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish I mean "pay, and, or manage many other people doing" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> studying myself and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helping where ever I can through assignments you/others will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give me related to what ever task is priority. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My ultimate goal is a crowd funded separate/related project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is more NN, bottom up, but this is Opencog so lets talk on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points for now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it seems like we are a fit and decide to move forward I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will need 2 personal references that I can verify by phone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preferably a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supervisor and a pastor. We should work through rent-a-coder or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a platform >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can provide you with references via a former employee and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a pastor from our church. I haven't had a supervisor since 1999. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can tell me your background through talking on each of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these points. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The AI: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Friend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Teacher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Located in the cloud to interact in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car/phone/home/space ship (wink), etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Facial recognition. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Voice recognition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Able to recognize police cars. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Recognize pedestrians >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. Assist like: "hey google", Cortana, and Seri, but more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehensive. No pun intended. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9. Recognize bio signs, heart rate respiration, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspiration, ect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. Analyze user voice, and voices in conversation with it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well as in the surrounding area surrounding area for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emotional state and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else which it is able to discern. ( not for spying, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> safety of the user ) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. Recognize and respond to users emotional state both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapeutically and in and effort to "relate" (for lack of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better word). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. Utilize the users emotional state (as well as emotion in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general) as a physical/mathematical indicator for prioritizing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decisions, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weighed against its own cognitive processes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13. The AI should actively "study" (what ever that looks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consciousness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - and relate these back to theoretical and non theoretical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum physics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am entirely serious. Should we end up talking about my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other project later on this will all make more sense, but for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now I can not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait to hear what you have to say. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 2:37:33 PM UTC-5, Curtis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Faith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are still looking let me know please. I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensive experience in the codebase. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Curtis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 5:31 PM JRTA <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My coding experience is limited to the basics of Python, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a few web pages with Dreamweaver and some minor work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> micro processors. I have no formal computer science >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> education, but seem to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pick things up intuitively once I spend a bit of time on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything. I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foremost a musician an artist with a strong marketing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background. I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> launched and run several companies in my life and work well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a team. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved many things with the help of others and by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using teams of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interns. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While overly ambitious, this project has been at the top >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my bucket list for a long time. I am willing to put some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money into this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. I'm not wealthy by any means and have a moderate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disposable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> income. Right now I feel like I'm missing some parts of what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is needed in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubuntu just to get started. Most of the commands in the build >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not recognized. I am about 2 days into this, never worked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Linux before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either. Don't tell me I can't do it because I won't listen to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that and will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed do it. XD I am just learning to find my way around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wiki and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have probably missed some essential basic starting pieces >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed before I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can build the project. I did do the manual build and got most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only to fail at the end. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I currently work nights Ubering in a bad ass sports car. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a good chunk of free time to work on this. I am going to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forgo video >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gaming and Netflix to focus on this. 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