Is the OP looking to help patch bugs with an individual program or to use Openstack to deploy an interesting use case? The latter is how I interpreted the question.
*Adam Lawson* AQORN, Inc. 427 North Tatnall Street Ste. 58461 Wilmington, Delaware 19801-2230 Toll-free: (844) 4-AQORN-NOW ext. 101 International: +1 302-387-4660 Direct: +1 916-246-2072 On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Duncan Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > On 7 October 2014 19:01, Anita Kuno <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 10/07/2014 01:38 PM, Adam Young wrote: > >> On 10/06/2014 05:28 PM, Anita Kuno wrote: > >>> On 10/06/2014 04:11 PM, Adam Young wrote: > >>>> I am looking to get someone to work on a Javascript based web client > to > >>>> replace Horizon. > > >>> Can I just say that I think using new people looking to have work > >>> experience with OpenStack to further pet projects, without telling them > >>> it is a pet project and not considered a project which others may > >>> consider OpenStack to be not the best approach for encouraging new > >>> people. > > I think writing a client / gui for openstack is one of the best single > projects you can do to get a good overview of the whole stack. > > >>> Not knocking your project, Adam, since I know nothing about it, and > this > >>> isn't the first time I have seen this happen. But I do believe that > >>> folks asking to help out with something are looking to gain > transferable > >>> skills so that they have something to offer a potential employeer who > is > >>> looking for work experience with OpenStack. That would be what I would > >>> be looking for anyway. > > >> No offense taken. I think you are looking out for the interest of the > >> poster and people wityh similar interests. > > <snip> > > >> It would not be appropriate for > >> someone in Patricia's position to try and come in and get a bug fix > >> through. > > > Now on this point, I'm going to disagree, simply because I don't have > > enough information on what Patricia's position actually is. I can guess > > but until I hear from Patricia herself, I'm just guessing and I would > > much rather know. It was my desire to know more about Patricia's > > position that motivated my suggestion she join irc and perhaps ask a few > > questions, allowing others to ask questions of her. > > > > When interacting with other folks who enter under similar circumstances, > > my first question invariably is "What is your goal?". I truly hope > > Patricia has something better than "to get a good mark" because folks > > with that goal rarely interest me, but who knows. I haven't had the > > chance to ask. > > If you're doing a final year project and your highest goal isn't 'to > get a good mark', then you're doing yourself a serious disservice. You > can have all sorts of secondary goals, but by the point in your > academic career where you're doing your final year project, your main > goal is to prove you're learnt and can apply all of the skills that > your course has covered. This actually involves a very different > process to getting something done in the 'real world'. > > >> That limits the number of projects available. > > Now here is where I would like to interact with program administrators > > at institutions such as Patricia's to ask them why a project? We have > > over 300 including stackforge, why task a student with starting their > > own, why not encourage them to learn our development process which then > > can enable them to work on any of the 300 in various stages of > development. > > Extremely difficult to get a decent academic project and therefore a > good mark out of an existing project that has had any substantial > amount of work done on it. Not impossible, but flicking through a pile > of old final year projects that got good marks shows that stand-alone > start-to-finish projects tend to get better marks. (I've looked into > this quite a bit) > > > > > > -- > Duncan Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >
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