Regarding to the Sahara, we could discuss it in the ML separately or you
could join the #openstack-sahara channel at freenode.

There is a big area of doing things inside and on top of Sahara.

thanks.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Adam Lawson <alaw...@aqorn.com> wrote:

> Is the OP looking to help patch bugs with an individual program or to use
> Openstack to deploy an interesting use case? The latter is how I
> interpreted the question.
>
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> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Duncan Thomas <duncan.tho...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 7 October 2014 19:01, Anita Kuno <ante...@anteaya.info> wrote:
>> > On 10/07/2014 01:38 PM, Adam Young wrote:
>> >> On 10/06/2014 05:28 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>> >>> On 10/06/2014 04:11 PM, Adam Young wrote:
>> >>>> I am looking to get someone to work on a Javascript based web client
>> to
>> >>>> replace Horizon.
>>
>> >>> Can I just say that I think using new people looking to have work
>> >>> experience with OpenStack to further pet projects, without telling
>> them
>> >>> it is a pet project and not considered a project which others may
>> >>> consider OpenStack to be not the best approach for encouraging new
>> >>> people.
>>
>> I think writing a client / gui for openstack is one of the best single
>> projects you can do to get a good overview of the whole stack.
>>
>> >>> Not knocking your project, Adam, since I know nothing about it, and
>> this
>> >>> isn't the first time I have seen this happen. But I do believe that
>> >>> folks asking to help out with something are looking to gain
>> transferable
>> >>> skills so that they have something to offer a potential employeer who
>> is
>> >>> looking for work experience with OpenStack. That would be what I would
>> >>> be looking for anyway.
>>
>> >> No offense taken.  I think you are looking out for the interest of the
>> >> poster and people wityh similar interests.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> >>  It would not be appropriate for
>> >> someone in Patricia's position to try and come in and get a bug fix
>> >> through.
>>
>> > Now on this point, I'm going to disagree, simply because I don't have
>> > enough information on what Patricia's position actually is. I can guess
>> > but until I hear from Patricia herself, I'm just guessing and I would
>> > much rather know. It was my desire to know more about Patricia's
>> > position that motivated my suggestion she join irc and perhaps ask a few
>> > questions, allowing others to ask questions of her.
>> >
>> > When interacting with other folks who enter under similar circumstances,
>> > my first question invariably is "What is your goal?". I truly hope
>> > Patricia has something better than "to get a good mark" because folks
>> > with that goal rarely interest me, but who knows. I haven't had the
>> > chance to ask.
>>
>> If you're doing a final year project and your highest goal isn't 'to
>> get a good mark', then you're doing yourself a serious disservice. You
>> can have all sorts of secondary goals, but by the point in your
>> academic career where you're doing your final year project, your main
>> goal is to prove you're learnt and can apply all of the skills that
>> your course has covered. This actually involves a very different
>> process to getting something done in the 'real world'.
>>
>> >>  That limits the number of projects available.
>> > Now here is where I would like to interact with program administrators
>> > at institutions such as Patricia's to ask them why a project? We have
>> > over 300 including stackforge, why task a student with starting their
>> > own, why not encourage them to learn our development process which then
>> > can enable them to work on any of the 300 in various stages of
>> development.
>>
>> Extremely difficult to get a decent academic project and therefore a
>> good mark out of an existing project that has had any substantial
>> amount of work done on it. Not impossible, but flicking through a pile
>> of old final year projects that got good marks shows that stand-alone
>> start-to-finish projects tend to get better marks. (I've looked into
>> this quite a bit)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Duncan Thomas
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Sincerely yours,
Sergey Lukjanov
Sahara Technical Lead
(OpenStack Data Processing)
Principal Software Engineer
Mirantis Inc.
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