Sorry for repeating myself: I think we should wait for the 330 and 299 specs to 
settle, and THEN we can decide what to do. I feel uncomfortable with being 
promoted from incubator without having the API pretty stable.

Once this point is reached, I look pretty confident that OWB will find a well 
established place in the community.

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Wed, 9/9/09, Kevan Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Kevan Miller <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Graduation?
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 6:11 PM
> 
> On Sep 8, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> 
> > -1
> > 
> > Allow me to disagree with you Gurkan, IMHO I think OWN
> should be a TLP
> > project. I know it is to some extent related to JEE
> but IMO it defines
> > a generic and extensible model for dependency
> injection and contextual
> > programming which is not restricted to JEE, so being a
> sub-project to
> > Geronimo will give the community users the impression
> that we only
> > support JEE. I think we should follow the model of
> Tomcat and OpenEJB,
> > which is a separate TLP and being integrable with
> other ASF projects
> > like Geronimo for example.
> 
> Will note that being a sub-project does not prevent OWB
> from providing the same independent functionality, a unique
> mailing list, web site, etc.
> 
> > 
> > And for the communit, being a separate TLP will not be
> affected and we
> > could get more contributers and committers and a big
> example on that
> > is DBlevins.
> 
> That's great. But it does mean, IMO, that the community has
> to work on growing and becoming more diverse. I'll note that
> by my tally, so far in 2009, only two committers have
> committed code to OpenWebBeans. Admittedly, this does not
> include code patches. But I don't think I could back a TLP
> proposal without some increased diversity in the community.
> 
> Hopefully with the 299 and EE6 spec issues settling down,
> we'll see an increased interest in OpenWebBeans.
> 
> As long as the community is working towards graduation, I'm
> with you...
> 
> --kevan
> 


      

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