On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu<[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Mohammad; > > Actually there is no reason not to accept your statements, you are totally > right! . Why I want to subproject under Geronimo is that its diverse > community(including user base) , and stable development activities. Another > reason to be subproject is that until to now, we were not so successful to > extend our user community, for example; a low mail traffic at OWB u...@... > list. But being subproject under Geronimo we can also get more attraction > from users.
Once it is part of Geronimo - being integrated - and users start using it, they will be traffic on the OWB list. Keep in mind that this is a young standard. (and there were some negative comments in the wider JavaEE space about web-beans anyway - that maybe also a reason why folks aren't looking at it, yet) (I also have a hate/love affair with WebBeans ;-) ) > > And one more reason is that Geronimo may support ongoing development > activities to achieve OWB's being a full spec compliant. Geronimo has a > great experienced team who could help us to make this possible. that happens by default, as Geronimo has to have JSR 299 to be JavaEE6 compliant. Geronimo helped us a lot on MyFaces 1.2. But still I am more confident with having a TLP. > > But as you said, definitely OWB can also be TLP as its own. > > What do other folks think about ? > > Thanks; > > --Gurkan > > 2009/9/9 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]> > >> -1 >> >> Allow me to disagree with you Gurkan, IMHO I think OWN should be a TLP >> project. I know it is to some extent related to JEE but IMO it defines >> a generic and extensible model for dependency injection and contextual >> programming which is not restricted to JEE, so being a sub-project to >> Geronimo will give the community users the impression that we only >> support JEE. I think we should follow the model of Tomcat and OpenEJB, >> which is a separate TLP and being integrable with other ASF projects >> like Geronimo for example. >> >> And for the communit, being a separate TLP will not be affected and we >> could get more contributers and committers and a big example on that >> is DBlevins. >> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Mark Struberg<[email protected]> wrote: >> > +1 >> > >> > LieGrue, >> > strub >> > >> > --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> From: Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: Graduation? >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:23 PM >> >> Hi Kevan; >> >> >> >> Firstly its very good news for us! >> >> >> >> I personally think that we can continue to implement OWB as >> >> a sub-project under Geronimo. Geronimo has a stable >> >> community so we can also benefit from its diverse community >> >> and its reputation. Moreover, it ease the integration OWB >> >> with other Geronimo modules like EJB, JSF etc. >> >> >> >> So this is my +1 as it is a sub-project under Geronimo. >> >> >> >> --Gurkan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Kevan Miller <[email protected]> >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:00:44 PM >> >> Subject: Graduation? >> >> >> >> All, >> >> I wanted to checkpoint with the community about their >> >> thoughts regarding Incubator Graduation. I don't want the >> >> community to be too focused on implementation issues and >> >> forget about an important goal -- getting you out of the >> >> Apache Incubator! >> >> >> >> IMO, this community displays nearly all of the >> >> characteristics that I would look for from a successful >> >> Incubator project: you've successfully created several >> >> releases while operating in a clear, open, and welcoming >> >> manner. All of this while facing some significant challenges >> >> as the JSR 299 spec has been an ever shifting target. >> >> >> >> I'd like to see us moving towards graduation. To start >> >> things off, is the community interested in becoming a >> >> top-level project? Or would you rather graduate as a >> >> sub-project of an existing TLP? >> >> >> >> --kevan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks >> - Mohammad Nour >> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour >> ---- >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" >> - Albert Einstein >> > > > > -- > Gurkan Erdogdu > http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
