As far as I remember we are counting for being a subproject of Geronimo, aren't we? =)
So I suggest OWB being a TLP and not a subproject. br, Sven 2009/9/9 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]> > So this is -1 for being a TLP or for being a Geronimo sub-project :D ? > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Sven > Linstaedt<[email protected]> wrote: > > -1 from my side. > > > > The reasons for being a TLP were already mentioned, especially by > Mohammed > > and Matthias. > > > > br, Sven > > > > > > 2009/9/9 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]> > > > >> Another good point > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Matthias Wessendorf<[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu< > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >> Hi Mohammad; > >> >> > >> >> Actually there is no reason not to accept your statements, you are > >> totally > >> >> right! . Why I want to subproject under Geronimo is that its diverse > >> >> community(including user base) , and stable development activities. > >> Another > >> >> reason to be subproject is that until to now, we were not so > successful > >> to > >> >> extend our user community, for example; a low mail traffic at OWB > user@ > >> ... > >> >> list. But being subproject under Geronimo we can also get more > >> attraction > >> >> from users. > >> > > >> > Once it is part of Geronimo - being integrated - and users start using > >> it, > >> > they will be traffic on the OWB list. Keep in mind that this is a > >> > young standard. > >> > (and there were some negative comments in the wider JavaEE space about > >> > web-beans anyway - that maybe also a reason why folks aren't looking > at > >> it, > >> > yet) (I also have a hate/love affair with WebBeans ;-) ) > >> > > >> >> > >> >> And one more reason is that Geronimo may support ongoing development > >> >> activities to achieve OWB's being a full spec compliant. Geronimo has > a > >> >> great experienced team who could help us to make this possible. > >> > > >> > that happens by default, as Geronimo has to have JSR 299 to be JavaEE6 > >> > compliant. Geronimo helped us a lot on MyFaces 1.2. But still I am > more > >> > confident with having a TLP. > >> > > >> >> > >> >> But as you said, definitely OWB can also be TLP as its own. > >> >> > >> >> What do other folks think about ? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks; > >> >> > >> >> --Gurkan > >> >> > >> >> 2009/9/9 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]> > >> >> > >> >>> -1 > >> >>> > >> >>> Allow me to disagree with you Gurkan, IMHO I think OWN should be a > TLP > >> >>> project. I know it is to some extent related to JEE but IMO it > defines > >> >>> a generic and extensible model for dependency injection and > contextual > >> >>> programming which is not restricted to JEE, so being a sub-project > to > >> >>> Geronimo will give the community users the impression that we only > >> >>> support JEE. I think we should follow the model of Tomcat and > OpenEJB, > >> >>> which is a separate TLP and being integrable with other ASF projects > >> >>> like Geronimo for example. > >> >>> > >> >>> And for the communit, being a separate TLP will not be affected and > we > >> >>> could get more contributers and committers and a big example on that > >> >>> is DBlevins. > >> >>> > >> >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Mark Struberg<[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >>> > +1 > >> >>> > > >> >>> > LieGrue, > >> >>> > strub > >> >>> > > >> >>> > --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> From: Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> > >> >>> >> Subject: Re: Graduation? > >> >>> >> To: [email protected] > >> >>> >> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:23 PM > >> >>> >> Hi Kevan; > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Firstly its very good news for us! > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I personally think that we can continue to implement OWB as > >> >>> >> a sub-project under Geronimo. Geronimo has a stable > >> >>> >> community so we can also benefit from its diverse community > >> >>> >> and its reputation. Moreover, it ease the integration OWB > >> >>> >> with other Geronimo modules like EJB, JSF etc. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> So this is my +1 as it is a sub-project under Geronimo. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> --Gurkan > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> ________________________________ > >> >>> >> From: Kevan Miller <[email protected]> > >> >>> >> To: [email protected] > >> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:00:44 PM > >> >>> >> Subject: Graduation? > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> All, > >> >>> >> I wanted to checkpoint with the community about their > >> >>> >> thoughts regarding Incubator Graduation. I don't want the > >> >>> >> community to be too focused on implementation issues and > >> >>> >> forget about an important goal -- getting you out of the > >> >>> >> Apache Incubator! > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> IMO, this community displays nearly all of the > >> >>> >> characteristics that I would look for from a successful > >> >>> >> Incubator project: you've successfully created several > >> >>> >> releases while operating in a clear, open, and welcoming > >> >>> >> manner. All of this while facing some significant challenges > >> >>> >> as the JSR 299 spec has been an ever shifting target. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I'd like to see us moving towards graduation. To start > >> >>> >> things off, is the community interested in becoming a > >> >>> >> top-level project? Or would you rather graduate as a > >> >>> >> sub-project of an existing TLP? > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> --kevan > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Thanks > >> >>> - Mohammad Nour > >> >>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > >> >>> ---- > >> >>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep > >> moving" > >> >>> - Albert Einstein > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Gurkan Erdogdu > >> >> http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Matthias Wessendorf > >> > > >> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > >> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Thanks > >> - Mohammad Nour > >> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > >> ---- > >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep > moving" > >> - Albert Einstein > >> > > > > > > -- > Thanks > - Mohammad Nour > - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > ---- > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" > - Albert Einstein >
