So this is -1 for being a TLP or for being a Geronimo sub-project :D ? On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Sven Linstaedt<[email protected]> wrote: > -1 from my side. > > The reasons for being a TLP were already mentioned, especially by Mohammed > and Matthias. > > br, Sven > > > 2009/9/9 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]> > >> Another good point >> >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Matthias Wessendorf<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Mohammad; >> >> >> >> Actually there is no reason not to accept your statements, you are >> totally >> >> right! . Why I want to subproject under Geronimo is that its diverse >> >> community(including user base) , and stable development activities. >> Another >> >> reason to be subproject is that until to now, we were not so successful >> to >> >> extend our user community, for example; a low mail traffic at OWB user@ >> ... >> >> list. But being subproject under Geronimo we can also get more >> attraction >> >> from users. >> > >> > Once it is part of Geronimo - being integrated - and users start using >> it, >> > they will be traffic on the OWB list. Keep in mind that this is a >> > young standard. >> > (and there were some negative comments in the wider JavaEE space about >> > web-beans anyway - that maybe also a reason why folks aren't looking at >> it, >> > yet) (I also have a hate/love affair with WebBeans ;-) ) >> > >> >> >> >> And one more reason is that Geronimo may support ongoing development >> >> activities to achieve OWB's being a full spec compliant. Geronimo has a >> >> great experienced team who could help us to make this possible. >> > >> > that happens by default, as Geronimo has to have JSR 299 to be JavaEE6 >> > compliant. Geronimo helped us a lot on MyFaces 1.2. But still I am more >> > confident with having a TLP. >> > >> >> >> >> But as you said, definitely OWB can also be TLP as its own. >> >> >> >> What do other folks think about ? >> >> >> >> Thanks; >> >> >> >> --Gurkan >> >> >> >> 2009/9/9 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]> >> >> >> >>> -1 >> >>> >> >>> Allow me to disagree with you Gurkan, IMHO I think OWN should be a TLP >> >>> project. I know it is to some extent related to JEE but IMO it defines >> >>> a generic and extensible model for dependency injection and contextual >> >>> programming which is not restricted to JEE, so being a sub-project to >> >>> Geronimo will give the community users the impression that we only >> >>> support JEE. I think we should follow the model of Tomcat and OpenEJB, >> >>> which is a separate TLP and being integrable with other ASF projects >> >>> like Geronimo for example. >> >>> >> >>> And for the communit, being a separate TLP will not be affected and we >> >>> could get more contributers and committers and a big example on that >> >>> is DBlevins. >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Mark Struberg<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> > +1 >> >>> > >> >>> > LieGrue, >> >>> > strub >> >>> > >> >>> > --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> From: Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: Graduation? >> >>> >> To: [email protected] >> >>> >> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:23 PM >> >>> >> Hi Kevan; >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Firstly its very good news for us! >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I personally think that we can continue to implement OWB as >> >>> >> a sub-project under Geronimo. Geronimo has a stable >> >>> >> community so we can also benefit from its diverse community >> >>> >> and its reputation. Moreover, it ease the integration OWB >> >>> >> with other Geronimo modules like EJB, JSF etc. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> So this is my +1 as it is a sub-project under Geronimo. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> --Gurkan >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> ________________________________ >> >>> >> From: Kevan Miller <[email protected]> >> >>> >> To: [email protected] >> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:00:44 PM >> >>> >> Subject: Graduation? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> All, >> >>> >> I wanted to checkpoint with the community about their >> >>> >> thoughts regarding Incubator Graduation. I don't want the >> >>> >> community to be too focused on implementation issues and >> >>> >> forget about an important goal -- getting you out of the >> >>> >> Apache Incubator! >> >>> >> >> >>> >> IMO, this community displays nearly all of the >> >>> >> characteristics that I would look for from a successful >> >>> >> Incubator project: you've successfully created several >> >>> >> releases while operating in a clear, open, and welcoming >> >>> >> manner. All of this while facing some significant challenges >> >>> >> as the JSR 299 spec has been an ever shifting target. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I'd like to see us moving towards graduation. To start >> >>> >> things off, is the community interested in becoming a >> >>> >> top-level project? Or would you rather graduate as a >> >>> >> sub-project of an existing TLP? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> --kevan >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Thanks >> >>> - Mohammad Nour >> >>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour >> >>> ---- >> >>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep >> moving" >> >>> - Albert Einstein >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gurkan Erdogdu >> >> http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Matthias Wessendorf >> > >> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks >> - Mohammad Nour >> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour >> ---- >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" >> - Albert Einstein >> >
-- Thanks - Mohammad Nour - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour ---- "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein
