:) Thanks Sven; --Gurkan
2009/9/9 Sven Linstaedt <[email protected]> > As far as I remember we are counting for being a subproject of Geronimo, > aren't we? =) > > So I suggest OWB being a TLP and not a subproject. > > > br, Sven > > > 2009/9/9 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]> > > > So this is -1 for being a TLP or for being a Geronimo sub-project :D ? > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Sven > > Linstaedt<[email protected]> wrote: > > > -1 from my side. > > > > > > The reasons for being a TLP were already mentioned, especially by > > Mohammed > > > and Matthias. > > > > > > br, Sven > > > > > > > > > 2009/9/9 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]> > > > > > >> Another good point > > >> > > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Matthias Wessendorf< > [email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu< > > [email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> >> Hi Mohammad; > > >> >> > > >> >> Actually there is no reason not to accept your statements, you are > > >> totally > > >> >> right! . Why I want to subproject under Geronimo is that its > diverse > > >> >> community(including user base) , and stable development activities. > > >> Another > > >> >> reason to be subproject is that until to now, we were not so > > successful > > >> to > > >> >> extend our user community, for example; a low mail traffic at OWB > > user@ > > >> ... > > >> >> list. But being subproject under Geronimo we can also get more > > >> attraction > > >> >> from users. > > >> > > > >> > Once it is part of Geronimo - being integrated - and users start > using > > >> it, > > >> > they will be traffic on the OWB list. Keep in mind that this is a > > >> > young standard. > > >> > (and there were some negative comments in the wider JavaEE space > about > > >> > web-beans anyway - that maybe also a reason why folks aren't looking > > at > > >> it, > > >> > yet) (I also have a hate/love affair with WebBeans ;-) ) > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> And one more reason is that Geronimo may support ongoing > development > > >> >> activities to achieve OWB's being a full spec compliant. Geronimo > has > > a > > >> >> great experienced team who could help us to make this possible. > > >> > > > >> > that happens by default, as Geronimo has to have JSR 299 to be > JavaEE6 > > >> > compliant. Geronimo helped us a lot on MyFaces 1.2. But still I am > > more > > >> > confident with having a TLP. > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> But as you said, definitely OWB can also be TLP as its own. > > >> >> > > >> >> What do other folks think about ? > > >> >> > > >> >> Thanks; > > >> >> > > >> >> --Gurkan > > >> >> > > >> >> 2009/9/9 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]> > > >> >> > > >> >>> -1 > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Allow me to disagree with you Gurkan, IMHO I think OWN should be a > > TLP > > >> >>> project. I know it is to some extent related to JEE but IMO it > > defines > > >> >>> a generic and extensible model for dependency injection and > > contextual > > >> >>> programming which is not restricted to JEE, so being a sub-project > > to > > >> >>> Geronimo will give the community users the impression that we only > > >> >>> support JEE. I think we should follow the model of Tomcat and > > OpenEJB, > > >> >>> which is a separate TLP and being integrable with other ASF > projects > > >> >>> like Geronimo for example. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> And for the communit, being a separate TLP will not be affected > and > > we > > >> >>> could get more contributers and committers and a big example on > that > > >> >>> is DBlevins. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Mark Struberg<[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> >>> > +1 > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > LieGrue, > > >> >>> > strub > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> >> From: Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> > > >> >>> >> Subject: Re: Graduation? > > >> >>> >> To: [email protected] > > >> >>> >> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:23 PM > > >> >>> >> Hi Kevan; > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> Firstly its very good news for us! > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> I personally think that we can continue to implement OWB as > > >> >>> >> a sub-project under Geronimo. Geronimo has a stable > > >> >>> >> community so we can also benefit from its diverse community > > >> >>> >> and its reputation. Moreover, it ease the integration OWB > > >> >>> >> with other Geronimo modules like EJB, JSF etc. > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> So this is my +1 as it is a sub-project under Geronimo. > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> --Gurkan > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> ________________________________ > > >> >>> >> From: Kevan Miller <[email protected]> > > >> >>> >> To: [email protected] > > >> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:00:44 PM > > >> >>> >> Subject: Graduation? > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> All, > > >> >>> >> I wanted to checkpoint with the community about their > > >> >>> >> thoughts regarding Incubator Graduation. I don't want the > > >> >>> >> community to be too focused on implementation issues and > > >> >>> >> forget about an important goal -- getting you out of the > > >> >>> >> Apache Incubator! > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> IMO, this community displays nearly all of the > > >> >>> >> characteristics that I would look for from a successful > > >> >>> >> Incubator project: you've successfully created several > > >> >>> >> releases while operating in a clear, open, and welcoming > > >> >>> >> manner. All of this while facing some significant challenges > > >> >>> >> as the JSR 299 spec has been an ever shifting target. > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> I'd like to see us moving towards graduation. To start > > >> >>> >> things off, is the community interested in becoming a > > >> >>> >> top-level project? Or would you rather graduate as a > > >> >>> >> sub-project of an existing TLP? > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> --kevan > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -- > > >> >>> Thanks > > >> >>> - Mohammad Nour > > >> >>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > > >> >>> ---- > > >> >>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep > > >> moving" > > >> >>> - Albert Einstein > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Gurkan Erdogdu > > >> >> http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Matthias Wessendorf > > >> > > > >> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > >> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Thanks > > >> - Mohammad Nour > > >> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > > >> ---- > > >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep > > moving" > > >> - Albert Einstein > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks > > - Mohammad Nour > > - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > > ---- > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep > moving" > > - Albert Einstein > > > -- Gurkan Erdogdu http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com
